Battle of the Movie Trilogies

come back to Films and Fermentation, where this week we settle a debate more intense than a lightsaber duel in a thunderstorm… the greatest movie trilogy of all time. We’ve built the ultimate bracket, packed with iconic franchises, questionable matchups, and at least one pick that will absolutely start a fight. From epic sagas to perfectly crafted three-film arcs, only one trilogy will survive our completely unbiased (and totally biased) opinions. Expect bold takes, dramatic upsets, and the kind of arguments that make referees nervous. So grab your drink, fill out your mental bracket, and prepare to yell at your speakers as we crown the true champion of trilogies. 🎬🍻

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SPEAKER_04 0:08

Greetings, humans.

SPEAKER_00 0:09

I come in peace and with podcasts. Welcome to Pod Nation Media, home of the KJNA podcast, the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, Monster Island Film Vault, Cthulhu Jack Presents, and Films and Fermentation. All streaming exclusively.

SPEAKER_02 1:34

So we are not doing that. What we are doing tonight is we are looking at the best movie trilogies. This is a bracket episode. So we're going to be taking a look at a bracket filled with movie trilogies that was provided to us by Kevin. This is not our bracket. This is a bracket that Kevin came across online, but we really liked it. And they thought it had a pretty nice variety of films on there. So we'll explain it when we get to the main segment tonight. But that's what we're going to be doing. We're going to be uh uh voting on best trilogies in this bracket and see who wins the championship. That's right, we are films and fermentation, a movie and alcohol podcast, number one beer and alcohol podcast on good pods. I'm Leo. I'm Kevin. I'm Mike. We're three friends like talk shit about movies while getting shit faced. And some of us are having trouble talking because we are really congested. I'm like still breathing in the pollen.

SPEAKER_05 2:27

Bullish human.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Welcome back to Films and Fermentation, where this week we settle a debate more intense than a lightsaber duel in a thunderstorm. The greatest movie trilogy of all time. We built the ultimate bracket, or actually, we stole the ultimate bracket, packed with iconic franchises, questionable matchups, borrowed, and borrowed, and at least one pick that will absolutely start a fight. I have a couple that I think will start fights. From epic sagas to perfectly crafted three-film arcs, only one trilogy will survive our completely unbiased opinions. That could be old. Totally biased. Expect bold takes, dramatic upsets, and the kind of arguments that make referees nervous. So grab your drink, fill out your mental bracket, and prepare to yell at your speakers as we crown the true champion of truth. Don't forget to drop us an email at films of fermentation to gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all our social media podcast links. Become part of the films of fermentation family. You can watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku. You could also watch us on YouTube and on Rumble. We're an independent podcast supporting us because our listeners support and join us as little as a dollar to receive members only content. Or you cansprint.com. You can also text us at 94867-4466. We'd like to know what you think is the best movie trilogy of all time. What are we doing? You glitched. You are glitching. You were glitching big, yeah. I I heard the voice going through, so I'm fairly certain it was recorded. If it wasn't, I will figure something out when I'm editing it later.

SPEAKER_05 4:07

You got it, Vanelope.

SPEAKER_02 4:09

Yeah, if I have to like if I have, yeah, that's how you sound like right now. If I have to uh redo the beginning myself on my own, I can do that. That's fine. In the meantime, what are we drinking tonight?

SPEAKER_05 4:21

Oh, I'll go first because Megan uh suggested, and it was such a great idea. You guys know I'm cleaning out the fridge, and uh all of my spring beers from Sam are gone. Uh so I'm left with some of the remaining uh St. Patty's Day beers, and we had a harp so we had them all into one big mug together. Well, I put two of them into one glass together. I'm not sure if you guys can see the contrast, but Guinness. It is a Guinness and Harps. This is a black and tan, true black and tan.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Oh, there you go, true black and tan, Guinness and harps. That's nice. Yeah, so that is a really good idea. I haven't had a black and tan, like a drill preck black and tan in a while. I've had the Guinness like black and tan that they do themselves, like in a can. Yeah. Um, but I haven't had like an actual one in a while.

SPEAKER_05 5:11

I mean, it was good. It made a little bit of a mess when pouring the uh Guinness over the spoon to get the layering, but um, it looks good. It looks good. I think we here have company here at Mr. Tustin's neighborhood.

SPEAKER_02 5:24

Yeah, come on in. We may have a guest. Oh, we have a guest tonight. There he is, the boy. The boy is officially being recorded right now. Hello, my friend. Say hello. Hi, Megan. Say hi, wave. Hi. Wave. Wave. Oh, we actually have people who will be seeing us now. Normally I don't have a recording when he's on. Hey boy.

SPEAKER_05 5:50

Who are you? Hey handsome. My little albino baby.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

It's it's the camera, it adds ten layers of pail.

SPEAKER_05 6:02

Are you taking notes? Hello. Are you filling out your own uh bracket? Say hi.

SPEAKER_02 6:10

What's the best movie trilogy of all time, bud? Trash truck.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

Trash truck.

SPEAKER_02 6:17

Season matrix and three. Wait, is the matrix on this bracket? Yes, it is. Okay, good. I was like, we didn't make this bracket. It better be on He said Belief Academy.

SPEAKER_05 6:30

Porkies. Kindergarten, huh? Kindergarten a trilogy. It is the way I watch it.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Trash truck seasons one, two, and three. That's right. Nolan.

unknown 6:46

No.

SPEAKER_02 6:47

Nolan. Hold on one second. Say something for preservation's sake. That's a lot of dead air, can't say something. Well you can't, because it's dead if you do the mic. Kevin just turned the mic off. There we go. There he is. Now he can hear you.

SPEAKER_04 7:06

Say hi. Hello, Colin.

SPEAKER_02 7:09

Colin. Say tell you. Say hi. Hi. Say tata.

SPEAKER_05 7:18

Say belly. He had a very filling uh dinner of chocolate milk. And he did not take to uh corndogs. And he did not take to peanut butter sandwiches. He took to strawberries and chocolate milk and cheese.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Chocolate covered strawberries, baby. Hi Nolan.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Hi.

unknown 7:42

Hi.

SPEAKER_04 7:43

Say hi.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

The world wants to know what's on your mind right now, bud.

SPEAKER_05 7:50

You wanna say night night? Say night night. Say night night. Say night night, guys. You wanna say bye-bye? I have it recording. He's not gonna say anything else. Touching is my favorite thing in the world to do. Alright. Can Daddy get a kiss good night? Can Daddy get a kiss tonight? Night night. Nope, Daddy doesn't even get a kiss good night.

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Give him a kiss.

SPEAKER_05 8:32

Ooh, bad television.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

It's alright. Okay. That's not the way to end. That's not the way to end sweep. There we go.

SPEAKER_04 8:43

Bye-bye. Say bye-bye.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Bye. Bye.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

Good night, night. Sorry, he's camera shocked.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

That's all right. We're gonna leave it all in. I don't feel like editing it out.

SPEAKER_05 9:01

Our listeners will appreciate a dead area.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Confuse the audience. There was for those of you watching us on YouTube. That is a very cute child who uh belongs to Kevin.

SPEAKER_05 9:11

I'm surprised too.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

And for those of you listening to us on audio, I'm sorry, but there was a baby in the room. That's why we all turned into morons. Now buy no baby. Buy no baby. Mike, what are you drinking?

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Oh boy. It's something that clear your sinuses right on up there, Lee. Yeah, this is Southern Star American Single Malt Whiskey Task Strength from uh Blind Barrels. Which uh release uh 16 best of the best. This is from Southern Distillery Distilling Company, Statesville, North Carolina. Seven-year-old. Um seven years old, 100% malted barley. It is 115.2 proof.

SPEAKER_02 10:06

So when 115 proof ain't enough, throw an extra 2.2 on there. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

And yeah, it cleared my sizes right up for the verse set.

SPEAKER_02 10:16

Again, thank you to Bobby Demars at Blind Barrels. And that's uh yeah. So I went to uh Mud Hen Brewing Company this weekend uh in Wahwood, New Jersey. Uh I don't usually go to Wawood, but it was my sister-in-law's birthday, and this is where she wanted to have her little get together. Um, I did a flight there. I did their porter, their uh their their blondale, and a dunkel. Uh but the one that I ended up liking the best was their original lager, uh, which is called the Mud Hen Original. Uh here, 4.5% algal by volume. It's a light lager, and uh it's pretty tasty. I have a six-pack. I'll probably be drinking at least two of them tonight. And that's what I got going on. So, Mike, I'm gonna play a little music now.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Alrighty then. This week in film history with mine. The music box is released in the Oliver Hardy. 1932 Academy Award for Best Live Action Short Film.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Okay, can't say that I've seen that. I know of Laurel and Hardy. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Uh 1934, Shirley Temple appears in her first feature-leaked film, Stand Up and Cheer.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Fun fact: the Shirley Temple was invented before Shirley Temple was born.

SPEAKER_05 11:59

She was named after the drink.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yeah, exactly. I wanted to beat Kevin to the lie.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

1961. Jimmy Stewart accepts an honorary Oscar on behalf of his friend Gary Cooper, who is too ill to attend.

SPEAKER_05 12:24

Gary Cooper.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper. Yep. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 12:29

Super the duper. 1987. James Bond film, Casino Royale, starring David Niven and Peter Sellers. Premieres in London.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

Yes, not many people know that this was a James Bond film starring Peter Sellers. It is a comedy.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

As most films with David Niven and Peter Sellers were uh next one is uh 1992, William Shatner, Linda Nemoy, and DeForest Kelly inducted into the National Association of Broadcasters Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

That would be like basically the TV Hall of Fame in 1994.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Um Takai is discovered and named after Star Trek actor George Tekai.

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Oh my oh my oh my oh my in 2011.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Oh my and 2011, or directed by Kenneth Braunau, starring Chris Helmsworth and Natalie Portman, premieres in Sydney, Australia.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

How come we don't have the Thword trilogy on this uh bracket tonight? I don't know. Because they didn't get really good till Ragnarok.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

They don't have the uh Avengers trilogy on there either. Yeah, I know. Uh also in 2011, Game of Thrones TV series based on the fantasy novels by George R. R. Martin. Premieres on HBO starring uh Maria Clark, Sean Bean, Lena Hetty, and Peter Dinklage.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

It did not divide the fans ever.

SPEAKER_05 14:14

No, we were all supportive.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Everybody was happy for every season of that show. Especially towards the end.

SPEAKER_01 14:22

Especially the people that read all the books first. Well, well, read the ones that were written already. Uh 2013 Iron Man 3, directed by Shane Black, starring Rod uh Robert Jr. and going with you once said Ron Jeremy, didn't you? I almost said something. I was about to say Rodney Dangerfield or something. I don't know. Uh with Petro premieres in London. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

We uh we will be discussing that soon because the Iron Man trilogy is on this bracket.

SPEAKER_01 14:55

Yes, it is. Uh 2015, Avengers Age of Ultron, directed by Josh Wheaton, starring Robin Denner Jr., Chris Evans, uh Chris Soundsworth, Scarlett Johansson, Mark Ruffalo, and Jeremy Reiner premieres in Los Angeles, California.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

You can kind of do like the premiere of a Marvel movie every year for like from like 2005 through 2019 or something like that. There was like one or two films every year. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

Uh last fact you got there, sir. In 2017, the Fate of the Furious, directed by F. Gary Gray, and starring Vin Diesel on the Rock opens worldwide with the highest grossing weekend at 532 million. Why wasn't this uh series on the list?

SPEAKER_05 15:43

Well, because it's more than a trillion. I was just gonna ask, what is it called when it's 10? A decology?

SPEAKER_02 15:49

I would say a decology. I call it 10 years that one. Yeah, but here's the thing: here's why fake uh Fast and the Furious doesn't get on the trilogy list. You got Fast and the Furious is the first film, the second film is called Fast and the Furious Tokyo Drift, which is about a completely different set of characters, and you don't return to the characters from the original film to the third film. Plus, they fucking blow. So I'm not gonna put them on my list anyway. All right, so very short list of facts this week. Let's get to some beer news. I gotta send this to my friend who's obsessed with Florida stories.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

Florida woman throws beer bottles at toddler after falling off her bike. Pardon me, this is out of Fort Walton Beach, Florida. A Florida woman is facing charges after deputies say she threw beer bottles at toddler on Tuesday night. According to Okalooza County Sheriff's Office, Carolyn Miller, reportedly fell off her bike around 6:30 p.m. while on Circle Drive in Fort Walton Beach. Deputies say a three-year-old boy went up to her in an apparent attempt to check on her and threw two bottles at the child. So it's not even the child falling off of the bike because this woman's throwing bottles at her. This is a woman falling off of a bike, a kid's coming up to help her, and she's throwing the bottles at him.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

I was confused by the by the headline. Like it was like, is the woman throwing the bottle at the toddler because the toddler fell off the bike, or is she throwing the bottle at the toddler because she fell off the bike?

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Well, this is why we're doing a deep dive.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Yeah, we got to do a deep dive because the toddler woke up there after she fell.

SPEAKER_05 18:11

Witnesses said that the boy hadn't ducked. He uh, if the boy hadn't ducked, he could have been hit in the head. The child's parents saw the incident unfold. They, along with multiple nearby residents, provided sworn statements corroborating the events. Investigators said that time out, time out.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Sworn statements. If it was my kid, somebody threw a ball at that person's getting ass kicked.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

They would have got a sworn statement from me right there. The cosh would have been putting me in jail.

SPEAKER_05 18:42

That's right. Investigators said that Miller stated that she believed she was being attacked by a three-year-old. However, they added that she was unable to coherently explain what happened or her actions. Yeah, Miller suffered a minor finger injury, which off officials said was consistent with falling off of a bike. The child was not injured. Miller has been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Fucking Florida people.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

I'm also a much larger target.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

But if she was that drunk, she probably threw it over his head.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

She thought it was a dwarf laughing at her. As I said, she fell at the bike, and then the kid woke up to her and went. Oh man. Yeah, I I'm I'm definitely sending that to my friend who's a Florida story. Uh like addict. All right, I got one quick movie update for tonight. Movie updates with Leo.

SPEAKER_03 20:00

Movie updates with Leo. Movie updates with Leo. Movie updates with Leo.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

So I'm wearing my Space Balls t-shirt tonight in honor of this update. The latest, yes, the latest teaser trailer for the new Space Balls film dropped today. Uh, it involves Mel Brooks sitting at his desk in his home. He faces the camera and he says, For 30 years, people have been asking me when's the new Space Balls movie coming out. And I have good news. It's ready. We're gonna be releasing it soon. And guess what? It's not called Space Balls the Search for More Money. We didn't call it that because we found the money, it was in my basement. And then the camera cuts over to the side, and there's a bag of money on his desk, and on the bag it says Space Balls the bag of money. He goes, This one's gonna be called Spaceballs the New One. So that's the title of the film, Space Balls the New One. Uh, but they do have some cast uh confirmations on IMDB now. So Bill Pallman and uh Daphne Zenega are returning as Lone Star and Vespa. Rick Moranis is returning as Darth Helmet. Uh Mel Brooks is returning as both Jogurt and President Scroob. Uh George Weiner is returning as Colonel Sanders. And then you have some new cast members. Uh Josh Gadd, who co-wrote the film. It's not confirmed who he's playing, but I'm assuming he's playing uh Bart's son. Uh or something or somebody related to Bartholomew. Uh Lewis Pullman, Bill Pullman's son, is in the film as well. He's playing Starburst, who I'm assuming is Lone Star and Vespa's son. Uh as well as Kiki. Yeah, as well as Kiki Palmer playing a character named Destiny. I'm not sure who Destiny is. Uh no. Nobody else that I really recognize on this. Oh, Michael Winslow is back as the radar technician.

SPEAKER_05 22:09

Wasn't Josh Cad uh wasn't he one of the writers for the world uh uh uh history of the world series that came out?

SPEAKER_02 22:17

I know he was on it. I don't know if he was a writer on it. Um Nick Kroll was one of the writers. Uh yeah, I don't remember. I don't know. I could look it up real quick. Oh, here it is. History of the world part two. He played Shakespeare in History of the World Part 2, Josh Gad. Uh yeah, I don't see it. Yeah, it was not very funny, History of the World Part 2. Okay. Uh I know Mel Brooks is more involved with um the Space Balls sequel than he was with the History of the World series. So hopefully. Hopefully he lives up to it. That's the only movie news I have for tonight. Mike Given he must try crafter brew destinations for us tonight. I do.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

We have Guinness for an extra stout is a strong 7.5 ABV, uh globally distributed beer with that highlights Guinness. It's massive international reach with millions of pints consumed daily, and uh multi multiple versions brewed or licensed worldwide. Yeah, that's just that's just Guinness. This is Guinness's foreign extra stout.

unknown 23:34

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 23:35

That's Guinness. That's yeah, but McKevin has Guinness mixed with harp. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

It's made from pale malt, flaked barley, and roasted barley using a blend of hops. Uh using a blend of hops, the beer is known for its complex character, slightly sour, musty aroma from wild yeast and flavors combining roasted bitterness, dark fruit, woody notes, and spice, finishing long, dry, and bitter with a hint of licorice. It is also serves as a base for stronger regional variants, including versions brewed in Africa using local ingredients like Sarkam, uh while maintaining quality control through analysis in Dublin.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

We will be back very briefly with our main segment, our trilogy bracket for the evening. So please stick with us. All right, everybody. Tonight's main segment is a movie trilogy tournament bracket. Uh, this is courtesy of Kevin, who got this from Roll of Cinema. Roll of Cinema is a uh Facebook group uh where you are invited to join and discuss cinema and television. So this comes from the Roll of Cinema Facebook group, best movie trilogy bracket. Here's how the bracket breaks down. Uh, round one, we have Captain America versus Iron Man. Now, these are you know, like films like Captain America, Die Hard, uh, Star Wars, whatever. Like, there's multiple movies, obviously, but we're only looking at the first three films in every movie series. That's that is how you define a trilogy. So it's the first three Captain America films versus the first three Iron Man films. The Lord of the Rings trilogy versus The Hobbit, the Jurassic World trilogy versus the Jurassic Park trilogy, the before trilogy. That's the uh romantic films with Eason Hawk before midnight, before sunset, before sunrise, uh, versus the Toy Story trilogy. So, again, we're not counting Toy Story 4 or the upcoming Toy Story 5. The Dark Knight trilogy versus the Blade trilogy. Oh, I'm definitely going Blade. Uh, the Star Wars. This one's this one, I this one's gonna take some time to think about the Star Wars prequels versus the Star Wars sequels. Uh the Guardian of the Galaxy trilogy versus Star Trek. Now, for Star Trek, we're talking about uh Star Trek The Motion Picture from 1978, uh Star Trek Ray S of Khan, and Star Trek Search for Spock, Rush Hour versus the Born Trilogy. So that would be uh Born Identity, Born System Ultimatum. And then on the other side, we have the original Star Wars trilogy, New Hope, Empire, and Return of the Jedi versus the Terminator trilogy, The Godfather, one, two, and three versus the dollars trilogy. That would be uh the good to bad and the ugly, fistful of dollars, and a few dollars more. Die Hard versus the Naked Gun trilogy. Oh man, that's tough. That's John McLean versus Enrico Balazzo. That's that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_05 27:10

And OJ Simpson.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

And OJ Simpson. That is uh next around is the Unbreakable trilogy, which would be Unbreakable, uh Split and Glass versus The Matrix, Back to the Future, one, two, and three versus Indiana Jones. That would be Raiders, Temple of Doom, and Last Crusade, Pirates of the Caribbean. I haven't seen anything past the first three films, so it's a perfect trilogy for me there. Yep, versus how to train your dragon, the Spider-Man Home trilogy, so that would be the Tom Holland Spider-Man films, versus the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy, which would be the ones with uh Toby Maguire. Because unfortunately, Andy Garfield did not get a trilogy, and we are not doing the duology bracket, and then the last matchup is Planet of the Apes. For this one, we are doing the original uh Charlton Heston Planet of the Apes. So it's Planet of the Apes, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, and War for the Planet of the Apes versus Kung Fu Panda, one, two, and three. So let's start with Captain America versus Iron Man.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

Let's get right a rumble.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Now, I didn't do this that's on the bracket here. This was this was already on the bracket when uh when I copied and pasted it, so I didn't automatically put Captain America into the next round, so it's up for you guys to like vote here. I already told Mike I probably go Iron Man uh because I'm more of an Iron Man fan than I've had than I am of a cat fan.

SPEAKER_05 28:46

I think the stories were in the cat in the Captain America movies were better, you know, especially Civil War. And I know it doesn't follow the the the the comics directly, but I just think the the movies the Winter Soldier and uh Civil War were better than Iron Man 2 and Iron Man 3, especially with uh Ben Kingsley playing, I'm sorry, Treva playing the Mandalorian.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Trevor Burrus Slathery. Okay. I uh I said I told Mike in the pre-show I I knew you were gonna pick Captain America's. You've said before that Civil War is your favorite of the MCU films. Yeah, I was picking more from like a comic book heart kind of thing because I always loved Iron Man comics. Um, but I I agree. Like I think the Captain America films have some better better stories.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

I'm gonna argue with Kevin just a minute there because you know he he trashed three a little. Uh out of the three Ironmans, I thought two sucked.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

Well no, two two definitely sucked. It was terrible. It was terrible. I was bad.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Three was three was okay.

SPEAKER_05 29:48

Uh three was uh three was better than two.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

I thought three did better with the PTSD he was dealing with after he died in the space. I agree.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

I agree with that. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Um I thought he had PTSD from going to Swarma.

SPEAKER_05 30:08

In my mind, I rank him Iron Man 1, then Iron Man 3, then Iron Man 2 in terms of quality. Same, same.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

But but that being said, like I said, I'm gonna defend Iron Man 3 a little bit. Uh I'm gonna pick uh the Captain America trilogy because they were just general.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

Yeah, I saw Iron Man 3 in the theater with Kevin. Uncle Ricky. That's right. Yes, so Captain America moves on to the next round. Uh, should we uh jump to the other side and do Star Wars versus Terminator? Sure. We have to do ahead Star Wars versus Terminator. Um I know what I'm picking.

SPEAKER_05 30:52

Yeah, yeah. I think I think we're all picking the same thing. I think I I have to go Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 30:57

Uh yes, I have to go Star Wars. As much as I like the Terminator films, I would think because they went from auto'd being the bad guy to auto'd being the hero.

SPEAKER_05 31:12

And I really liked them in two, you know. I like the story in two, I thought two was good. Um, I I don't know whether I'd say it's better than the first terminator, it's at least as good as the first terminator, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 31:26

It would definitely be a fun topic of discussion for Sequel Wars. Yes, because it's very similar, and I I look at it similarly to like Alien vs. Aliens, in that they're like two very different films. Right. They they you know, so I'm going definitely go with Star Wars. Uh I think we're all going Star Wars uh on this one. Uh I do have something to say that uh is very sad. Um, I was talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger to some of my students the other day, and they had no idea who he was.

SPEAKER_05 31:56

Hey, see, I was talking to my my students to uh yesterday, I guess maybe, uh, because we were covering European geography, and I said, So Austria is where Arnold Schwarzenegger is from. And I had at least two or three kids go, I'll be back. I was like, Yes, thank you.

SPEAKER_02 32:12

Not my kids. I showed him a picture, I was like, You guys don't know who this is. I was showing the Terminator. I was like, You don't know the Terminator? Like, no, I was like, My god, I'm old.

SPEAKER_05 32:21

Leah, my favorite part of uh Terminator 3 was Kristana Lukin.

SPEAKER_01 32:27

I'll make you proud. Today I was on uh a Coast Guard cutter doing some work, and um apparently one of the guys is scared of heights, so they were playing some music for him to be and it was like an opera light music, and I'm like, God damn it, it sounds like I was uh I've been uh I'm anti de locked in the locked myself.

SPEAKER_02 32:46

You're looking up at the speakers in the courtyard, and uh I don't know what them Italian ladies were singing about.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

But what I but what really got me was the kid I was working with, Eli. He's 21 and he got the reference. Oh, nice. He got the reference. I was shocked he never gets a reference like that. That boy was that boy was raised right. No, because he got a lot of references he should have gotten never to get.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Yeah, my kids did not know who Arnold was. It was very sad. Uh, I agree with you, Kev. The best part of Terminator 3 was Kristana Loken, uh, especially when she did the spread for Maxim Magazine promoting Terminator 3. Uh let's bring Maxim Magazine back. Yeah, all right, back to the other side of bracket. Lord of the Rings versus the Hobbit. Do we need to? Oh, definitely Hobbit. I'm returned to the King. Return of the King is nothing too smug. They followed the book and somehow managed to stretch it into three films. Well, I can see they can stretch it into three moves, but they added shit they didn't need to add. Oh well, that's how you stretch that's how you stretch a hundred-page book into three films. So I'm assuming then it'll be Captain America versus Lord of the Rings next round. Yes, it will. We do not know. Lord of the Rings. All right, back to the other side of the bracket. Then we have the Godfather trilogy versus the dollars trilogy. I think you know where I'm going.

SPEAKER_05 34:23

I'm going with you. I'm going to go to the Godfrey. Even though the third godfather was right.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

That's why I'm going to go with the dollars trilogy because I think all three of those were better. It was a good movie where only two godfathers were.

SPEAKER_05 34:37

Oh, I have to go with the god. Good, rather.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

If I don't go with Godfather, I'd be ostracized from my family.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

I'll be the odd man out and go with the dollars trilogy, even though I love Godfather one and two. It's fine.

SPEAKER_05 34:53

You'd have to tear up your uh your macaroni card.

SPEAKER_02 34:58

I'll never be allowed at the Olive Garden again. Jurassic World versus you're here, but you're not fan. I'm okay with it. Jurassic World versus Jurassic Park.

SPEAKER_01 35:13

I'll go first on this one.

SPEAKER_02 35:15

Yeah, I I think we're all gonna vote on the same thing anyway. Uh I'm with Jurassic World.

SPEAKER_05 35:21

I'm going with Jurassic World too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:24

You think the Jurassic World trilogy is better than the Jurassic Park trilogy?

SPEAKER_05 35:27

I think the only good one that came out of the Jurassic Park trilogy was the first one.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

The first one, the other two were not that the only good one that came out of Jurassic World trilogy was the first one.

SPEAKER_05 35:38

Uh the first and second were okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

This is what I would have got to shit. Hold on, hold on. Listen, this is what I would have said. At least in Jurassic World, they went with the same cast through the whole freaking trilogy instead of splitting it up the next two movies.

SPEAKER_05 35:55

And actually, in the last movie of Jurassic World, they brought back the old cast with the new cast.

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Yeah, because they they they were trying to like you know they're milking it for what they can.

SPEAKER_05 36:07

No, they were milking it for what they can. I I get that, but um, I still think the first two movies of Jurassic World, um, and I love Jurassic Park, don't get me wrong, I love it. It's my one of my favorite movies. If it was just Jurassic Park versus the Jurassic World trilogy, maybe, but no, Jurassic World had better two first two movies.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Well, here's what I gotta say to that. Fuck both of you. I'm gonna be looking for new uh co-hosts. Uh, that brings us to die hard versus the naked gun.

SPEAKER_05 36:42

Naked gun. I gotta give a little love to Leslie Nielsen. Naked gun.

SPEAKER_02 36:48

I'm going diehard.

SPEAKER_05 36:50

Roll down your window, gently extend your arm, gently extend your middle finger.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Yeah, I I love the original naked gun. I even like two and a half, 33 and a third was terrible. Um, nice diehards. The first three diehards are really good.

SPEAKER_05 37:11

Nice beaver. Oh, thank you. I just added stuff.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

So, Mike, it's up to you. Oh, I'm going diehard. Thank you. You redeem yourself a little bit from the fucking Jurassic World thing.

SPEAKER_04 37:24

It's Enrico Colato.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

The next uh bracket, we have the before trilogy versus toy story. I'm the only uh one of the three of us I think who have seen who has seen the before trilogy. Uh and even I am going to go with Toy Story.

SPEAKER_04 37:40

Yeah, yeah, toy story.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

It's the more entertaining. Uh, I I like the before trilogy. I love Ethan Hawk. Uh Toy Story is more entertaining. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_05 37:50

Uh that means it's odd, not odd, but I guess the third one of the um of the Toy Story movies probably I don't want to say was it the best of the three?

SPEAKER_02 38:05

It's my favorite of the three. It's my favorite of the three, too. I think it's the got the strongest arc. It's a very emotional film because it it appeals to like the adults, you know, the adult reminiscence you have of childhood.

SPEAKER_05 38:22

Of having to get rid of some of your favorite toys and moving them along.

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Plus, that whole like existential dread scene where they're heading into the fire is like brutal, man. Like fucking, and then the the the teddy bear, like you know, where's your kid now? It's just like you know, saying, Where's your god now? Like that's pretty all right. Speaking of masterpieces, the unbreakable trilogy versus the matrix trilogy. Oh my god, here's the thing. I love the matrix. I love the first one. The second and third one are are hard to clear the stomach.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

The second one is terribly bad. The third one, yeah, the third one.

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Now, I really like Unbreakable. I think it was one of Shyamalan's better movies. I really like Split. I thought that was the movie that kind of brought him back.

SPEAKER_05 39:17

That was James McIlvoy doing an amazing movie.

SPEAKER_02 39:19

James McVie's incredible in that. Ani Taylor Joy's like one of her early films. Yep. And then there was Glass, which was fucking brutal.

SPEAKER_05 39:29

God, it's hard. This is with an ending that didn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

No. I'm gonna go with the Matrix. I think I'm gonna go with the Matrix as well, just because it's such a it's an iconic film. Um it's a film that's been like, you know, a lot of people have tried to duplicate and unsuccessfully do so.

SPEAKER_05 39:48

Here's the thing. I got so in I I I was so interested in the Matrix world that they created with the story and even the animatrix giving you a little bit more that I wanted to see, even though they weren't the greatest movies. I wanted to see more of that world. I wanted to see more of you know the architect and the previous worlds and things like that. Um, they could have stopped after Unbreakable with make, you know, the first one. Yeah, and I like Split, and but Split could have been its own movie, it didn't need to be tied to them, right?

SPEAKER_02 40:20

Yeah. Um, I like the Animatrix was amazing. Animatrix was such a cool series, and uh the the matrix video game for PlayStation 2. Really well done, phenomenal, really good game. Yeah, the Dark Knight trilogy versus the Blade trilogy. Uh, you know, I'm going with Blade. Christian Bale's got nothing on Wesley Snipes. Oh, and that Ryan Reynolds. Don't forget, Triple H is in the Blade trilogy. Yes, that's right. Triple H plays one of the vampires. When I think vampires, I think Triple H and Parker Posey. Yeah, that little vampire dog, you know. Come on. Individual vampire dog, yeah. Oh god, that fucking movie is so bad.

SPEAKER_01 41:04

We we we all know that Kevin is a big, you know, man bat fan. Uh Batman fan.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

Batman fan, man Bat. Uh no, I'm going Dark Knight. Yeah, I'm going Dark Knight. Well, Mike, you always like to point out uh how much you love Anne Hathaway as cat woman. And I saw her, she was on Jimmy Fallon the other night being interviewed for uh Doublewares Prada 2. And my God, definitely a celebrity vampire because she was gorgeous, looked exactly like she did 20 years ago.

SPEAKER_01 41:42

Hey, you know, Elijah Wood still has the ring because he has an Asian day.

SPEAKER_02 41:49

That's probably true as well. So Dark Knight goes on to the next round. Let's go to the other bracket here. Hope you guys are keeping up with this too, so that because in case I fuck up, I'm gonna need help. Back to the future trilogy versus the Indiana Jones trilogy. This not that hard. I I'm going Jones because I do think all three films are even even though Temple is a little like I do think all three films are great. Temple's like one of my favorites, even though it's not the best of the three. I enjoy watching it. Back to the future. I really like the first one, obviously. The first one's a classic. I didn't like the second one that much. I know a lot of people defend it. I wasn't a big fan of I actually like the third one better than the second one, which a lot of people hate.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

But yeah, I was gonna say the opposite. I liked um the first and the second uh of the back to the future. The third, I could take it or leave it. And with Indiana Jones, I like the first and the third.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

I'm not too keen on the second, but um I find you had to put like Temple up against like the worst of the Back to the Future trilogy films. Would you still take Temple? I'd still take Temple. Yeah, and I would do that too, which is why I'm gonna go with Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_01 43:12

Well, I find that a lot of people don't like Temple because they don't understand it. They don't understand the religion behind it. Like, you know, we all we everybody around Christianity, so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:23

Well, you know what it is, too, it was Temple of Doom was it was it was so much darker than the other films.

SPEAKER_05 43:30

Um they had to create a whole new rating system.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Yeah, it was very it was like you know, it was a lot darker, and it was a lot not as like swatch buckling, I think, as like the other two were. All right, let's go to wait, where'd we land on that? Yeah, we're on Jones.

SPEAKER_05 43:50

Jones, okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

We're going Indian Jones. Star Wars prequels versus Star Wars sequels.

SPEAKER_01 43:58

I'm gonna give you this this this I want to go with this one first. Um, just because at least they seemed like they had a plan through the whole thing. I'm going with the prequels. That's a good way of putting it.

SPEAKER_05 44:10

Yes. I'm gonna have to agree with Mike. They definitely Lucas, even though I like the plan, but at least they had a fucking plan. I think if if he would have let a little bit of people in on the prequels, you know, maybe changing the um the the the dialogue and um maybe adjusting some things.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

He should have brought uh Carrie Fesh Fisher in to doctor the scripts because she did it with the other films, like she she was one of the ones who doctored the dialogue for the original trilogy. He needed a dialogue person, really. Um go ahead, Kevin.

SPEAKER_05 44:48

But I was just gonna say he he has too much trouble giving up control. Yeah, you know, he you saw that with the original trilogy with the uh Empire and with uh Jedi.

SPEAKER_02 44:59

And then you see that with the sequels, it's it's JJ Abrams and and Ryan Johnson fighting for control.

SPEAKER_05 45:05

Lucas had no say in that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 45:07

It's two different creators trying to try to force their vision on it. I tried to look at it like what are what has the most pros versus you know, is uh and and the least cons. So it's like the sequels, like I liked Ray, I like seeing Han Solo and Chewbacca back in the Millennium Falcon. I love the lightsaber duel at the end of uh Last Jedi, where they're fighting the the the guard the Praetorian guards.

SPEAKER_01 45:32

Um that's about it. That's about it. But like the the the sequels, they they they forced you to believe that the three of them are friends, like you know, Han. Yeah, yeah, and they like they never stayed screen time in the first movie at all. Yeah, yeah, come on.

SPEAKER_02 45:51

But when I looked at the when I looked at the pros for the prequels, I like Darth Maul. Uh I liked Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan. I love the lightsaber duel at the end of Revenge of the Sith. Uh I like seeing Yoda use a lightsaber for the first time at the end of Attack of Clones. Um, so there was like there's just just enough like positives in the prequels to make me take the prequels for the in the and the stories weren't terrible.

SPEAKER_01 46:18

It was more that the dialogue.

SPEAKER_05 46:22

Yeah, it was more just like the uh the the unbearable politics that he had to like put into the into the well the unbearable politics and his need to really um get I mean I I want it I you want kids to enjoy the movies as well because we enjoyed Star Wars uh original trilogy as kids, but he went overboard with the silliness, you know. Um aka Jar Jar Bings, yes, aka the pod race, you know.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

The pod race didn't bother me as much as Jar Jar.

SPEAKER_05 46:55

No, no, Jar Jar definitely was uh venomous, but um uh yeah, just he he he was really trying to appeal too much to kids, and I think that went back to his marketing or his merchandising thing, you know. I can really squeeze it tight if I make these super for kids.

SPEAKER_02 47:14

All right, uh Pirates of the Caribbean versus How to Train Your Dragon. Uh I'm dragon all the way. I love the how to train your dragon films. So I like the first Pirates of the Caribbean. I kind of lost interest by the end of the third one.

SPEAKER_05 47:32

So uh I'm going Pirates, and if I'm being honest, it's because I I think I maybe watched only one of the How to Train Your Dragon movies, and it was good. Don't get me wrong, it was good. But um do the other two connect to the first one? Like do are they okay?

SPEAKER_02 47:49

The characters actually get older throughout the films, so it's like it's not like a cartoon that stays the same for 30 years. Like the the second one, the main character is a little bit older, and and you know, and then by the third one, he's an adult. He's he's the one running the the the town, you know. Like it's it's it it's it's yeah, it's really it's pretty well done. There's some plot holes here and there, obviously, but like overall, I think it's a really good trilogy. And honestly, when when Nolan's old and old enough to watch them with you, they're really fun movies to watch with him. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:25

And maybe it's going up against Shrek. You know, I say maybe I I in my mind I thought it should have gone up against Shrek. A cartoon versus a live action.

SPEAKER_02 48:36

And yeah, I st I still would have taken Dragon. Okay. Now, if Pirates gets voted through, I'm not gonna be angry. Not as angry as I am with fucking Jurassic World, but so Mike, what are you going with? Well, I'm going with Pirates. Pirates, yeah. No doubt I was losing that one. All right. Next uh bracket is Guardians of the Galaxy versus the Star Trek uh trilogy. You know where I'm going. Uh, you know what I'm doing? I'm voting Guardians because I want to say fuck you to both of you for doing the Jurassic World thing to me.

SPEAKER_05 49:14

I'm going Star Trek because I I just love I really like the Guardians movies, and the first two were really good. Third one is third one's very good. I just maybe need to watch it again. But um I I think I gotta stay with uh Spock and Kirk and McCoy.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

So the only the only downside I have to the Star Trek trilogy is the first film is the weakest of the three.

SPEAKER_05 49:41

That is true.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

It is the weakest, yet I do go back with that one that it is it does take stuff from the TV series from the series and puts into there, like um Commander Decker is the son of Commodore Decker uh and stuff like that. So um chick with the shortest skirt in the galaxy. Well, you then they put short skirts on everybody in next gen.

SPEAKER_05 50:07

That wasn't until Lieutenant Troy or Counselor Troy Counselor Troy.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

Uh next bracket. My god, this is hard. Spider-Man home trilogy. That's the uh Tom Holland ones versus the Sam Rady Spider-Man trilogy.

SPEAKER_05 50:26

I think I know which way I gotta go, but it hurts.

SPEAKER_02 50:30

I know which way I'm going.

SPEAKER_05 50:31

I think I gotta go Tom Holland.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

I think I gotta go Tom Holland as well. Yeah, I'm gonna go Tom Holland because it they feel more like comic book movies.

SPEAKER_05 50:42

Yeah. And the third one was really well done. This the first one was really well done. The second one was good, really good. And I think I think with uh the Toby McGuire ones, the first two were great. The third one was a flop. There was a musical number in the middle.

SPEAKER_01 51:03

Here's where I've had problems with Spider-Man as they've gone through and most in most superhero movies, is as they keep going, they keep adding more and more bad guys in every movie. So you go from one to two to like six at least when they did it home, the home trilogy, when they added a lot more bad guys, they added two more Spider-Man.

SPEAKER_02 51:24

Well, that's because they were they were still you know determined to bring in the multiverse and that uh in that movie, but they did it, they did it, uh they did it in a fun, interesting way.

SPEAKER_05 51:34

I think that was my favorite part was the the conversations between them. Yeah you know, the conversations with Toby McGuire and how he produces his own uh webs and um the whole Andrew Garfield arc with with the redemption of um uh with Mary Jane against you know when he saves her, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:56

My favorite line in the film is when they're asking him about the organic webs, and Tom Holland's like, does it like just come out of your wrist or like other places? And I agree, like the Sam Raimi ones are great. I love the first one. I think the second one is probably one of my favorite superhero films, and a lot of it has to do with Alfred Molina's Doc Ock. I thought he was great. Yeah, that yeah, that third one was a train wreck, yeah. And that's that's I think what what ultimately leads me to take the Tom Holland one.

SPEAKER_05 52:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Uh so that one goes on to the next round. So now we got the last matchup, each bracket here. Uh Rush Hour trilogy versus the born trilogy. Uh, I'm going born.

SPEAKER_05 52:44

Do you understand the words coming out of my mouth? Yes, they say born.

SPEAKER_02 52:49

Yeah, we're going born. I don't think I have to talk about that one too much. Uh and Planet of the Apes versus Kung Fu Panda. I hope you guys are picking fucking Planet of the Apes.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

Yeah, I'm picking Planet of the Apes. Come on.

SPEAKER_05 53:07

I'm picking Planet of the Apes. All right.

SPEAKER_02 53:11

That takes us to so here are your round two matchups. Uh, Captain America trilogy versus the Lord of the Rings, the original Star Wars trilogy versus the Godfather trilogy. Holy fuck. Jurassic World versus Toy Story. Fuck both of you if you pick Jurassic World over Toy Story. Die Hard versus The Matrix, Dark Knight versus the Star Wars prequels, Indiana Jones versus Pirates, Star Trek versus Born, and uh Tom Holland Spider-Man versus Planet of the Apes. So let's get through this. Captain America versus Lord of the Rings. I'm going Lord of the Rings. I really need to think about this shit. I'm going Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_05 54:02

I'm glad you two decided because I I think it was leaning towards Cap, but that's okay, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_02 54:09

Now this one is is this one hurts my heart a little bit. Um Star Wars versus The Godfather.

SPEAKER_05 54:16

Oh I'm going Star Wars. Yeah, I think I gotta go Star Wars. Godfather 3 was just too weak.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

I love The Godfather, obviously. Um, I love Star Wars, obviously. Uh I gotta go Star Wars, yeah. All right. Um Jurassic World versus Toy Story.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

Surprisingly, uh we're gonna go with uh Jurassic Toy Story.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

Exactly. Uh die Hard versus the Matrix. I'm going diehard.

SPEAKER_05 54:56

I'm going Die I'm going The Matrix, yeah. What are you doing, Mike? Matrix. Matrix.

SPEAKER_02 55:02

I think that's uh I think you consider that one an upset. Matrix beating out diehard. You know, I'm gonna have to rewatch all my favorite movies from this bracket now just to like cleanse my palate after getting Jurassic Park eliminated in the first round and diehard getting eliminated by the Matrix.

SPEAKER_01 55:21

It wasn't just Jurassic Park, it was the other two fucked up movies they had with it.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

Which I still think are better than the other two Jurassic World for World films. Uh Dark Knight versus the Star Wars prequels. Dark Knight. I was gonna say Jarge R. Binks or Joker. What's um um yeah, I can't uh excuse that. Let's see here. Indiana Jones versus Pirates of the Caribbean.

SPEAKER_05 55:53

Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_02 55:54

Indiana Jones is where I'm going as well. Dr. Jones. Uh let's see here, and uh last matchup we have here is the last oh no, we got two more. Uh Star Trek versus the Born Trilogy. I'm going Star Trek.

SPEAKER_05 56:13

I'm going Star Trek. I'm going Star Trek as well. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

And Tom Holland's Spider-Man versus Planet of the Apes.

SPEAKER_05 56:22

Gotta go Spidey. My Spidey senses are tingling.

SPEAKER_02 56:26

I'm gonna go Spidey too, just because the Planet of the Apes, I think, are kind of um I don't think they hold up that well, you know, even though they're better than the Tim Burton one. You know they hold up that well. All right. That brings us to the uh third round here. Lord of the Rings versus Toy Story, Star Wars versus Dematrix, the Dark Knight trilogy versus Indiana Jones, and Star Trek versus the Tom Holland Spider-Man films.

SPEAKER_01 56:59

Huh? I don't think you got that right. So I did Tom Holland's on the other side. Am I in the wrong bracket now?

SPEAKER_02 57:12

No, it's it's right. It's right. Star Trek was on the was on the left side, Tom Holland was on the right side. Star Trek should be against like the dark knight.

SPEAKER_05 57:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

So I did uh Lord of the Rings was the winner of the first seed bracket matchup. Should be going against Toy Story. Right. That's what it that's what it's doing. Star Wars and Godfather was the second seed bracket. Star Wars won. So I have that going up the fourth seed, which was the Matrix. Yeah. Uh Dark Knight was the fifth seed. I have that going against the should be against Star Trek. That should be Star That should be Star Trek.

SPEAKER_05 57:54

Star Trek.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

That's that's the seventh seed, all right. And then it's indie versus Spidey. Indie versus Spidey. All right. Thank you. This is why I asked you guys to make sure you were following along too, because I knew I was gonna fuck it up at some point. All right. So Lord of the Rings versus Toy Story.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

You sure you don't want Toy Story? And uh, I'm going Lord of the Rings. All right, Lord of the Rings. I'm going Lord of the Rings as well.

SPEAKER_05 58:23

Yeah, well, I think I'd go to Lord of the Rings too.

SPEAKER_02 58:26

All right, uh, Star Wars versus the Matrix. Star Wars, Star Wars. So you guys could believe me if you pick the Matrix. Uh Dark Knight versus Star Trek.

SPEAKER_03 58:40

The Dark Knight. Dark Trek.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

You can shoot me. Revenge for Jurassic Park. I'm going Dark Knight.

SPEAKER_01 58:55

And Indiana Jones or I thought I thought I made up for that. Kim is the one that didn't make up for it. You will go with him. That's not it. I'll try to figure out a way to fuck him in the next round.

SPEAKER_02 59:07

Uh D dark Knight's gonna go up against Lord of the Rings. And Star Wars will be going up against either Indy or Spidey.

SPEAKER_05 59:17

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Indie or Spidey.

SPEAKER_05 59:22

Spidey. Really? I love Indiana. I am. I am going indie.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Indy. Yeah. Okay. All right. So here's our semifinal matchups here. Lord of the Rings versus the Dark Knight trilogy. The original Star Wars trilogy versus Indiana Jones original trilogy.

SPEAKER_01 59:47

That's not a bad final four.

SPEAKER_02 59:48

That's a pretty no. It's kind of tough. Lord of the Rings versus Dark Knight.

SPEAKER_01 59:55

I'm going Lord of the Rings.

SPEAKER_02 59:56

I mean, I love I love the Dark Knights. I like Batman Begins. I don't think Dark Knight Rises is this strong an entry in it. The Lord of the Rings is just like a three-part masterpiece from beginning to end, despite the 19 endings. Extended versions. I'm going Lord of the Rings. Okay. Lord of the Rings is in the finals. Star Wars versus Indy. So Han versus Indy, huh? Yes, Han Solo versus Indiana Jones.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:32

You know what I'm doing. I'm doing Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:35

I'm doing Star Wars.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:36

Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:38

All right. This is the Clerks 2 argument. There's that famous scene in Clerks 2 where Randall is fighting with the Lord of the Rings fans over what's the better trilogy, Star Wars or Lord of the Rings. Well, we get to answer that now in our final round because Star Wars original trilogy is now facing off against the Lord of the Rings trilogy in the final matchup.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:00

Some bitch.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

I grew up with Star Wars, so I am going Star Wars.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:12

I am also going with Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:15

So Michael, feel free to pick Lord of the Rings without hurting your feelings. Oh man. It's already win. Star Wars already won. Kevin and I picked it, so you can pick everyone.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

I don't love the rings. I just think so. I love if you look, you've seen my basement, you know how much I love Star Wars. I know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

So with a uh two to one final vote, Star Wars wins our trilogy. I just I don't well, I turned into Christopher Walken here for a second. Star Wars wins the trilogy. Wow. Trilogy. Star Wars is our champion for best movie trilogy of all time. Mike, you have any beer trivia for us this evening?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:58

I have some beer stuff for you. Um, government regulations of beer for uh varies widely around the world, shaped by cultural, economic, historical, and religious influences. Most countries require breweries to obtain licenses and follow health, safety, and labeling rules. In the United States, federal oversight by the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau TDP involve strict requirements like obtaining a brewer's notice, uh, maintaining records, and complying with advertising laws. Similar multi-level uh regulatory systems exist in countries like Canada and Australia, Australia. Some regions, and particularly in part parts of Europe, have more relaxed rules that support small-scale or traditional brewing, such as Belgium's brew pub culture with lighter oversight. Advertising is also regulated differently across countries. The U.S. enforces standards to prevent misleading claims, while countries like France impose stricter limits to discourage targeting minors and promote uh responsible drinking. Overall regulations reflect each society's attitude towards alcohol, balancing public uh health concerns with economic and cultural interests.

unknown 1:03:26

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:28

Send them a quote of the week.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:30

Yes, it is left eyebrow raised, right eyebrow raised, Roger Moore summarizing his acting range.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:42

Like a little, like a little self-deprecation every now and then. Gentlemen, how are your drinks this evening? Kevin, how was your black? It was well made.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:52

I think whoever made it should continue making them.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:56

As long as we can get that that spoon ratio down. That's right. Mike, how was your 172-proof uh whiskey tonight? It tastes wonderful, but it's 115.2%. Yeah, that that's a little bit of fire in your belly there. And throw everything else. And I had the uh Mud Hend Brewery, I almost poured it on my laptop. Mud Hen uh Brewery original lager uh from Mudhead Brewery in Walwood, New Jersey, and it was very good.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:36

Gentlemen, were there any trilogies you wish had made the bracket that weren't there?

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

I think if there were any like what you say, Mike Police Academy, police academy, vengeance of nerds. Um I'm trying to think, like, there's not many that are like popping into my like Mike said the Avengers trilogy wasn't on there. Um, but like what do you count as the Avengers trilogy? Is it it's the Avengers, the Avengers Age of Ultron, and then Infinity War, but Infinity War. But yeah, which you'd have to put like kind of put endgame in there too, so it's not really a trilogy.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:12

Um what about the Hunger Games? I mean I know there were four movies, but the last one was a part one, part two.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:20

Yeah, and that kind of kills it a little bit too. But even so, like, I don't think the Hunger Games are great films.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:26

Okay, um Harry Potter, but there's like 17 films too.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:30

Yeah, like yeah, and if you did the first three, like I don't I don't feel like the first three are as strong as some of the later films.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:39

Alien Alien.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:42

I mean, I know Alien 3 sucks, but it is a trilogy.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:45

Well, you also got Friday the 13th, you got Nightmare on Elm Street, yeah. You got you got all sorts of horror movies that you got Hellraiser, Rod Jaws, Jaws, Jaws Montoon's great.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:58

Here you go, baby. Um I'd have to like sit and think about it because there's so many it's off the top of my head, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:07

I did hear uh HBO Max has has put out uh Alien 3 the assembly cut, which is essentially um the Fincher version that they that he wanted to do. Um and it's not pretty, you know, it's a lot of rough graphics and stuff like that, but you can it's watchable. A lot of people are praising it over the original version.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Yeah, because that that was the problem with it. It was like Fincher almost quit directing films because they fucked them over so badly.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:39

Here's a trilogy. Yeah. The Highlanders film, the trilogy. So Highlander, Highlander 2, the Quickening. Uh, there's four Highlander films. I don't remember the names of the last two. I think I stopped watching after two because two was so bad. I saw two first. You imagine how fucking confused I was. Oh Jesus Christ. Trying to think, oh my god, now it's gonna bug me that. Oh, oh, oh, I got a good one. Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, and Army of Darkness.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:12

Oh, I like another Sam Raimi trilogy.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:15

That's a really good one. Yeah, especially if you're like a horror fan or Sam Raimi fan. Yeah. Again, we didn't come up with this bracket ourselves. We thanked the people at Roll of Cinema on Facebook. Yeah. Uh, thank you for joining us tonight for episode 234, the Battle of Movie Trivia uh movie trilogy. Sorry, not trivia, trilogy. Uh, we hope you enjoyed listening to the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Remember, you can email us at films of fermentation at gmail.com. You can go to linksree.com slash films and fermentation to find all of our social media and podcast links. You can text us at 904-867-4466 or go to patreon.com slash films of fermentation to support us. Uh, don't forget to stop by the crossroads between pickle and ferment it next time around for episode 235. Cinematic Shakespeare. We're gonna be looking at Shakespeare in cinema. We promise it'll not be as boring as it sounds. I am working very hard on making it an entertaining episode. In the meantime, I'm Leo. I'm Kevin, I'm Mike. This has been the Films and Fermentation Podcast. Cheers, everybody.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:15

Cheers.