Pixar at 40!

This week on Films and Fermentation, we’re celebrating 40 years of Pixar—the studio that made us believe toys have feelings and that yes, we can cry over a imaginary friends disappearing. From groundbreaking animation in films like Toy Story to emotional gut-punches like Up and Inside Out, we’re diving into the movies that defined generations. We’ll revisit the classics, debate the best Pixar films, and ask how one studio keeps making us laugh, cry, and question our life choices in under two hours. Expect nostalgia, hot takes, and at least one emotional breakdown over a montage. So grab a drink and join us as we toast four decades of storytelling that somehow makes cartoons hit harder than reality. 🎬🍻

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SPEAKER_00 0:01

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SPEAKER_03 1:15

This episode is Nolan approved.

SPEAKER_06 1:18

Yay!

SPEAKER_03 1:21

One more time. There we go. Hey everybody, welcome back to Films and Fermentation. This week we are celebrating another anniversary. A lot of anniversaries this year. We did a whole episode on the 40th anniversary of the films of 1986. We're going to be doing another special anniversary episode next week, but this week we are talking about the 40th anniversary of the little independent film company. You may have heard of it. Pixar. Celebrating 40 years this year. The next Hanna Barbera. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're not quite Looney Tunes. They're more Hannah, yeah, more on the Hanna Barbera level. More Yogi Bear than Bucks Bunny. Welcome to Films and Fermentation, a movie and alcohol podcast, number one beer and alcohol podcast on Good Pods. I'm Leo.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Um Kevin.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

I'm Mike. Three friends like talk shit about movies or getting shit faced. This week on Films and Fermentation, we're celebrating 40 years of Pixar, the studio that made us believe toys have feelings, and that yes, we can cry over imaginary friends disappearing. From groundbreaking animation and films like Toy Story to emotional gut punches like Up and Inside Out, we're diving into the movies that define generations. We'll revisit the classics, debate the best Pixar films, and ask how one studio keeps making us laugh, cry, and question our life choices in under two hours. Expect nostalgia, hot takes, and at least one emotional breakdown over a montage. So grab a drink and join us as we toast four decades of storytelling that somehow make cartoons hit harder than reality. Don't forget you can drop us an email at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all over social media podcast links. You can watch us on the Tod Nation Media Network on Roku, uh, on YouTube, and on Rumble. I should mention we got a comment on Reddit uh a couple weeks ago for the um I don't remember what episode it was, uh, but I was talking about Chuck Norris's last film, and uh they corrected me and I understand the correction. His last feature film role was the movie I talked about in that episode, Top Dog, but his last actual film role was Kevin Expendables 2. Oh, how about that? Yeah, I forgot about that. I'm sorry I forgot about that. I'm not gonna mention the name of the person on Reddit because you know, like all Reddit users, he was very kind about it. Uh we are an independent podcast, which means we are listeners support it. So please consider joining our Patreon for as little as a dollar a month to receive members-only content for just one dollar a month. You've got a friend in us. And unlike certain toys, we won't freeze when you enter the room. We'll just keep talking movies and drinking. So uh you can buy our merchise these from document com or text us at 904-827-4466. What are we drinking tonight, gentlemen?

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Let's see what I got here. I'm going back. I'm back.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Still on the uh still doing the uh the the uh blind barrels.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

I am. There it is.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

I gotta I gotta email uh Bobby Lamar's and let him know we were uh you've been uh you've been doing that.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

Yeah, so uh I am now on uh number 17. Uh so this is number A, or letter A. Leopard's fork bottled in Bond, Tennessee whiskey. Uh Leopard's fork disciplinary, Franklin, Tennessee. 100 proof, five-year-old. Uh it is 70% corn, 15% rye, 15% malt, barley, all locally grown.

SPEAKER_03 5:32

Going easy this week. Last week's was 125 proof.

SPEAKER_01 5:35

Yeah, because I started I'm starting with sample A. It seems like it keeps going up. So I just got a new box, I got another box, so I'm moving up that box.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

Okay, so you're starting small. 100 proof. That means the last one in that box is gonna be 417. Uh Kev, what do you got going on?

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Um also imbiting on the whiskey. I've worked through my um through my stock of beer. My beer has been uh diminished for weeks now. And um initially I had you know, you guys I've had whiskey or vodka, what was it? Vodka a screwdriver for um you had the taming of the screw, taming of the screw or a screwdriver, and last week it was a Qui-Gon Gin and tonic. Um, and this week I'm just I knew it would be an emotional episode. This is uh the rest of the bottle of Jameson I have in my uh liquor cabinet. I'm going through that now, and uh hopefully it'll get me through the tears.

SPEAKER_03 6:34

Uh I am not doing anything theme tonight or beer or anything like that. I'm just drinking something that my wife has been drinking this uh a lot in the last week, and it's really tasty. She calls it a dirty Shirley. It's basically just uh cherry seven up and maraschino cherry moonshine. Oh, nice. Um that's why it looks like juice in my glass here. It's all red. But it's pretty good. It's just nice, nice little refreshing drink. It's a little warm right now. So anyway, let's play some music as soon as I can find where I where it is now because I added new things to the list of drops here, and now everything shifted. Here it is.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

And we're gonna start off with probably the oldest piece of history that we I've ever had. And 1754, the first newspaper cartoon in America, a divided snake with the world's joint words, join or die by Benjamin Franklin. It's published in the Pennsylvania Gazette.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Yeah, but it also featured Kathy, so it was a little lame, you know. She was she was trying, she was trying to figure out what to wear, and it was, you know, join or die. And she was like, What do we wear?

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Join or die, Kathy in the family circle debuted in the same. And then the next week, uh uh Calvin and Hobbes came out and everything was right with the world.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

And to our younger viewers or listeners, these are comics that used to be placed in newspapers when we were young and the dinosaurs around the earth.

SPEAKER_03 8:28

It's kind of sad. It's like an art form that doesn't exist anymore. Oh look, Garfield. I have like the uh I know Mike, you have a couple of them. I have a couple of the uh uh Calvin and Hobbes compendiums. Yeah, that was my favorite.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Actually, Adrian has them. I gave them to Adrian.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

I like Foxtrot.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Foxtrot was a good one. I liked um what was the uh Far Side? Far Side Farside was a good one. Oh man, yeah. Bring back comic strips. E-nuts was the comic strip first.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

1941 at California's March Field. Bob performs his first USO.

SPEAKER_03 9:10

How many did he do in his career? He was like that, was like what he was known for for a long, long time.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

Did he serve uh just out of curiosity, or was he just an entertainer? Okay. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with that, and he's entertaining our troops, that's great. I just didn't know whether he served, and that's how he got into it.

SPEAKER_03 9:28

I don't believe he I mean while uh you read the next one, I will look that up.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

1944, MGM releases releases film abate adaptation of Gaslight, starring Charles Boyer, Ingrid Berg Bergman, and an 18-year-old Angela Lansberry in her first day film debut.

SPEAKER_02 9:50

You know, I've only seen this movie like within the past three years. I knew the term gaslight, I knew what it meant, but I had never seen the movie. And then Megan was like, no, you have to watch it. And it's like, all right, so we watched it together, and I was like, so that's how you started doing it to me.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

I have not seen it either. Is it worth checking out? What was that? I said I haven't seen it either. Is it worth checking out?

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Oh, yeah, no, it's good. It's really good, actually. Yeah, that's funny.

SPEAKER_01 10:25

What was was Angela Lansbury hot at 18?

SPEAKER_02 10:29

She didn't stand out. Ingrid Bergman stood out.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

She also Angela Lansbury looked 67 when she was 22. I remember she was in the Manchurian, she's in a Manchurian candidate. She plays uh one of the main characters' moms, and she was only like six years older than the actor. Oh wow. She wasn't she was also in the Three Musketeers. She wasn't that old in that one, I don't believe. There you go. Mike Bob Hope was named an honorary veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces by Congress in 1997, but he was never he had never actually served in the military himself. He was the first person to receive that distinction because of his committed support of the troops for over five decades. His first USO tour was 1941. He did 57 USO tours, entertaining over 11 million military personnel worldwide. Wow. I mean, I give him credit just for being that committed to it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

Uh next one, sir. 1958, Virgo, American Film Noir, psychological thriller, directed by Alfred Hitchcock, starring Jimmy Stewart and Kim Novak, is released.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

One of Hitchcock's best films, one of my favorite Hitchcock films. Great ending.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

And this is what um Mel Brooks' high anxiety is based off of, right?

SPEAKER_03 11:51

That is the spoof. Yeah, the spoof of vertigo. It has a great ending in this movie. Good movie. Excellent, sir.

SPEAKER_01 11:58

1958 classic hammer horror film, Dracula, is released starring Christopher Lee as the infamous vampire alongside Peter Cushing and directed by Terrence Fisher. So the first of the Hammer Dracula films.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

There were what 972 total or something like that.

SPEAKER_02 12:19

Wasn't Black Cula one of them?

SPEAKER_01 12:22

I just like how it's Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing.

SPEAKER_03 12:25

Later to be, you know, I mean, they would they but they were also like they were like the two names that were synonymous with the hammer film and and Vincent Price to a lesser extent, were like the name synonymous with the hammer films. Yeah, and and uh no uh I believe Blackula was brought to you by the same people who gave us Shaft and Foxy Brown.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

Uh next one, sir. 1963, the first James Bond film, Dr. Doe, starring Sean Connery, premieres in the US.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

And the rest is history.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yes, it is. Here's one for Leo. Yeah. 1987, Shelly Long portrays Diane Chambers in her final episode on the TV comedy Cheers. She'll be back in three weeks.

SPEAKER_03 13:15

And I mean, and then Kirsty Alley, I thought was a good addition to the show afterwards, brought a different dynamic to the show. I mean, it ran for I think like five more years after Shelly Long left, so it wasn't like it went in a dumpster after she left.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Yeah, actually, I I like the comedy of of um Kirsty Alley more than I I think I appreciated uh Shelly Long's character.

SPEAKER_03 13:38

Mm-hmm. And and yeah, she had a good dynamic with Sam and Woody and all them. Uh there's a great Fraser episode, though, uh, where Shelly Long shows up and she's she's putting on a play in Seattle, and Frazier goes to see the the rehearsal, and it takes place in a bar that looks exactly like Cheers, and all the characters have names that sound like the characters from Cheers, and they're all obsessed with the waitress named Diane.

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Uh next one. No, this is for me, too. Yes, 1989, national release of Field of Dreams, a sports fantasy drama film based on WP Kensella's novel, Shoeless Joe, starring Kevin Costner, James R. Jones, Ray Leota, and Burke Lancaster in his final film role.

SPEAKER_03 14:32

Not watched it yet this year. I it's usually like we talk about this for Kev, like we watch a lot of baseball movies at the beginning of the baseball season. Um I've watched uh I watched Field of Dreams and I watched or not Field of Dreams, uh League It Around and Major League. Uh, but I haven't gotten around to some of the other ones that I usually watch.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

The natural and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

Uh Baldorum. I usually watch too much time. Yeah. So eight men out. Oh I I actually want to revisit that one. I haven't seen I haven't seen that one in a while. I like it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:05

So the um woman who plays his wife in this, she won for best supporting actress. Um Amy Manigan.

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Yeah, she won Best Supporting Actress for Weapons for playing the uh the villain. Man, she looks different.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

I mean, she looked different in the movie, but she really looks different.

SPEAKER_03 15:21

But yeah, well, she got I mean, she's older, and she kind of like didn't do the whole Hollywood thing where she tried to stay young, like she let the wrinkles come. And she'll be honest, I did not know she was married to Ed Harris until I saw her at the Oscars. She was married to Ed Harris, man. They've been married for a long time. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Uh next one, sir. 1997 science fiction film, the fifth element, written and directed by Luke Benson, starring Bruce Willis and Melovic, is released. Then the most expensive European film ever made. It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_02 16:01

It's a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 16:02

I love the fifth element. I wish there had been like a sequel to it.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

And I hate Chris um Tucker.

SPEAKER_03 16:10

He's the worst part of the film.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

I think he's the worst movie. I don't mind him in the movie. I mean, he's the worst part of it, but I don't mind him. He's doing what he's doing. He's obnoxious. He's obnoxious in everything, but he's supposed to be in this one. Um but I thought it was a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 16:27

I did too. And I think they were pushing it to be like the next Star Wars. Like it was gonna be like this big sci-fi epic, and it didn't do well in the box office, which kind of killed its uh sequel potential. Um I really like it. Like, and Miliovovich ended up marrying the director Lucas Pisani after this. I wonder why.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

I wonder. Uh next one. 1999, the Mummy, filmed directed by Stephen Summers, starring Brendan Fraser, Rachel Weiss, and John Hanna. Premier's in the US.

SPEAKER_03 17:01

And aren't they making a new one now? They are, they're coming back. With Fraser, with Weiss, boy, that's gonna be weird considering they replaced her with a different actress in the third one.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

They should be it's just a dream. You know, it's just a dream.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

They should make they should have uh a role for Maria Bello in this one and just have like some weird, awkward interaction with them, like with Brendan Fraser standing in the middle, like looking at like a little meta joke in the middle of the movie. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

2008, Sachs McFarland reaches an agreement worth $100 million with Fox to keep Family Guy and American Dead on television until 2012, making him the world's highest paid television writer.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Gotta be even higher pay than that because they're still running these cartoons. Yes, I know. They're uh they're they're they're you know racing right behind the Simpsons right now.

SPEAKER_01 18:04

Uh next one 2011. Pirates of the Caribbean on Stranger Tosh, directed by Rob Marshall, starring Johnny Depp and Penellia Cruz Premier's opening weekend makes $350.6 million dollars. Not a great movie.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

Is this the fourth one? Yes. Yeah, I haven't seen anything past the third one, so and I believe they're making another one. I want to hear that too.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Uh last one, sir. 2023. Actress and writer Carrie Fisher, best known as Princess Leia from the Star Wars films, is honored with a star on Hollywood Walk of Fame.

SPEAKER_02 18:43

Is this posthumously? Was this done posthumously? She wasn't still alive in 2023, was she?

SPEAKER_03 18:49

I think it was posthumous because I she she passed away during the filming of the of uh Rise of Skywalker. Right. And I don't remember when that came out. So let's see here. Carrie Fisher passed away 2016. Wow. So she was it was seven years after she passed away that they gave her the star.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Well, you know, you got that five-year waiting period after you retire to oh I mean it's the most name.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

All right, let's hear a little bit of uh not so political beer news.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

If I were to read the headline, man accused of assaulting cop after repeatedly calling 911 for beer delivery, what state would you think that that would have come out of? Florida! Maine. If you said Maine, you'd be correct. You'd be so. Yeah, but I was to be Florida too. This is out of Dixmont, Maine. A drunk man called 911 on Sunday and asked police to deliver him beer before he allegedly assaulted deputies from the Penobscott County Sheriff's Office, a claim that he denies. Vernus Mayhew, that's a name, 45, is charged in Newport District Court with one misdemeanor count each of assault, misuse of the emergency 911 system, and refusing to submit to arrest. Mayhew, who admits that he had been drinking, is accused of calling 911 four times to request that police deliver beer. I was drunk and I was trying to be funny, so I called 911 to ask for a beer delivery. Mayhew told the Banger News Daily News on Wednesday. While he doesn't deny some of the allegations, Mayhew maintains he did not assault the officer. The encounter between Mayhew and the police was recorded on video by Mayhew's daughter, though it fails to capture two crucial seconds when the three men move out of frame during the physical altercation. This was a serious matter that negatively impacted public safety resources, including the Regional Communications Center and deputies. Sheriff Troy Morton said, This criminal matter is pending before the court, and it would be inappropriate to comment further at this time. Police warned Mayhew on Sunday to stop calling 911 for non emergency reasons and told him it was a misdemeanor, according to a report in the court records. Mayhew said he did not care, the report said. Vernus stated that he was intoxicated. And would cause a low-speed chase if he had to drive, which is why he wanted law enforcement to deliver alcohol to him instead. Uh Sergeant Cameron Barrio report wrote in his report. Deputies responded to Mayhew's house around 5 45 p.m. Because of repeated calls. The police said Mahew answered the door holding a can of Bud Light according to the video shared by BDN. Mayhew told police he was waiting for the beer, and police said that they did not bring beer, according to the video. Mahew said he would take the ticket for the misuse of 911, but that he would keep calling until he got his beer. We've got two options here. You can give me a ticket or you can give me a beer, Mahew said in the video. Police told Mahew that he was under arrest for misusing 911 and he refused to step outside. Deputies reached through the doorway to grab him. The video shows. The men moved out of frame and were not recorded in the video for about two seconds. Police said that when Mahew tried to put a deputy in headlock while Mahew said he did not assault anyone. Mayhew's daughter moved through the doorway just as Barrio punched Mahew in the face. If that's what police said had happened. I do not see that I was wrong doing that. Mayhew said that he will fight the charge. He was granted a $750 bail and released from county jail. Bail conditions include he will not drink alcohol and to only call 911 for an emergency. So essentially he thought 911 was Doordash.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

He learned his lesson.

SPEAKER_01 24:01

Sure, he did.

SPEAKER_02 24:05

Gentlemen, this is a rather lengthy article, so I'm only going to give you the summary and skip down to the section that focuses on the alcohol, like I'm known to do. In Science Daily, a 4,000-year-old tablet reveals magic spells, kings feared, and a beer recipe. Long forgotten I found it.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

It's in the on our Patreon page of me finding these recipes.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

So it's one of yeah, it's my favorite thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Some texts reveal correspondence between rulers, while others show the rise of complex bureaucracies. One tablet even shows something as ordinary and relatable as a recipe for beer. Um anyway, interesting tablet, lots of information, yada yada yada, skip, skip, skip. Go down. Baby's crying. Continue to do. Continue down. Okay. A great many of the cuneiform cuneiforms, uniform tablets. We have bear witness to a highly developed bureaucracy. There was a need to keep track of advanced societies that were being built. We have found a large number of uniform cuneiform. Cuneiform. Tablets containing practical information such as accounts and lists of goods and personnel. Uh is it it is therefore not surprising that one of the tablets in the National Museum's collection contains something as commonplace as a very old recipe for beer, concludes the curator. Uh yada yada yada. Beer is good.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

This article has me thinking one thing. Is beer the most important innovation in the history of mankind? Because yes. It comes up a lot in these uh these ancient, you know, I have a lot of like book history of beer.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

Of course it is.

SPEAKER_03 26:32

A lot of your beer history stuff ends up being about like, you know, how Egyptians used to pay people in beer to like build the pyramids and shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

I've got that. I've got a book with a uh 1,001 beers you must try. I have another one, another 300 beers you must try. I have beers from around the world. Yes, beer is the most important thing that was ever made in this world.

SPEAKER_02 26:52

Now, don't get me wrong, the information on the possible existence of a real Gilgamesh is interesting. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_03 27:00

I just watched a uh a uh video on YouTube recently of the history of Gilgame Gilgamesh. It was a really cool, like animated feature. And in the comments, I wrote Darmok and Jalata Tenagra when the when the walls fell. And I think that comment has gotten more likes and follow-up comments than anything else I've ever done on YouTube. Jesus, it's just a running thread of like you know, uh Tanabra with his his sales unfurled. Like just everything from the episode. Oh, the last one I gave you.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

Well, the last one you did give me, but it did require digging a bit. This is a rather old news story from 2023. You could have just read the uh title. That's okay. Washington Black Bear inexplicitly passes on Bush beer and passes out after downing 36 Rainier beers. Wonder why you passed on the bush. A long day of chasing down elk, deer, and other sources of food. There's nothing like an ice cold beer or 36 to help you wind down. So, who can blame a bear for absolutely obliterating 36 beers and getting ripshit drunk? No, nobody can. So let's take a look back at this incredible, completely true story back from 2004. Oh, it goes back even further. Wow. According to NBC News, a black bear was seen passed out drunk by Fish and State Wildlife Agents at Baker Lake Resort back in 2004. And how did they figure this out? The loads of Rainier beer cans surrounding the bear. Apparently, the bear got into a camper's cooler and used its claws and teeth to open the cans. Shocking, eh? However, it appears that appears the bear isn't a fan of Bush. Lisa Broxen, bookkeeper of the campgrounds and cabiners. I like Mount Baker said he drank the Rainier beer, but wouldn't drink the Bush beer. That's unfortunate. Bush beer is the greatest gift on God's green earth, according to this article. I mean, what other beer can you find for that price that tastes that good?

SPEAKER_03 29:15

Damn Bear this must have been this must have been written by Anheuser.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yeah. Damn Bear wouldn't even know a good beer if it kicked him in the ass. However, Rainier actually used this route to make it cracked. Back in 2004. Oh man, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

The bear was like, I only drink craft.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Uh honestly, that is it. There's another bear beer story following it, but we only have time for the one bear beer story, so we're just gonna have to keep it there.

SPEAKER_03 29:53

Yeah, I sent us to Kevin. I was like, Bear or bear news.

SPEAKER_05 30:00

I get to play my song this week. Movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo, movie updates with Leo.

SPEAKER_03 30:17

The uh Odyssey final trailer was released this week. I watched it a couple days ago, and I am like I am ready. I need me a Nolan Odyssey film, uh, which will be coming out. I think it was July, I think it said it was coming out. So I can't wait to see that. This is uh boys trip night.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

You know how much he hates using CGI, so it was really daunting for him to actually find a giant cyclops that he could use in this movie, but he found it.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

The cyclops design was interesting because it was like the eye and the nose were kind of like sideways. It was it was an interesting design. Um, yeah, he built his own uh Turgeon Horse.

SPEAKER_01 30:58

This is how you do the Cyclops, you know?

SPEAKER_03 31:00

Yeah, uh put a patch on it. Uh but it looked really awesome. I'm I'm so hyped for it. I can't wait for that to come out. And uh I just saw this uh trailer the other day, and I thought it was kind of intriguing. Uh, it's from the creators of Stranger Things. They have a new Netflix series called The Burrows, and it stars Alfred Molina, Bill Pullman, and Gina Davis. And it's about uh stran it's basically Stranger Things in a retirement and living uh facility. Um so it's like they live in this like uh like a 55 and over community, and uh you know, Alfred Molina uh moves there reluctantly, and then at night starts seeing like strange shit happening around the town, and you know, gets involved in some stranger things. But it it actually looked like I'm joking about it, but actually looked pretty good. So I'm I'm kind of like uh looking forward to checking that out because I like Alfred Molina and Bill Palman and all so that should be pretty cool. Uh you gotta must-try craft for us tonight, Mike.

SPEAKER_01 31:58

Of course I do. Amber Shock is a strong Italian lager style beer, first brewed in 1996 with an ABV of 7%. Despite being a lager, it is crafted with techniques more commonly associated with complex ales, giving it an exceptional depth and richness. The beer uses a blend of Pills malt and Munich malt and German and French Kara malt, while the hopping schedule features Helitier, Magnum, and Peril hops, added in three stages. Its brewing process includes an ale style tictocket mash. I've never heard that word before. No, and an extended boil, both designed to intensify the caramel caramelized malt character. Fermentation is carried out with a bavarian cold fermenting lager yeast, creating a smooth but full-bodied profile. A major part of the beer's uh reputation comes from its lengthy conditioning process uh after brewing. The beer is bottled in distinctive one-liter bottles and naturally conditioned for four weeks, with the yeast continuing to continuing fermentation in the bottle without adding sugar or wort. The brewery believes kegging would fundamentally change the beer's character so it is served exclusively from the bottle, even at its own brew pub. The result is a rich layered beer with challenges that challenges the idea that only AOS can achieve true complexity, offering drinkers a combination of caramel sweetness, smalt depth, and smooth lager refinement and substitute hop balance. Actually, it sounds pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 34:01

Amber shock. Amber shock, it's Italian. Well, it says it's an Italian-style lager, it's not necessarily Italian.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

No, no, no. It is an Italian beer, it comes from an Italian brewery.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Oh, okay. Amber Shock. Yeah, that sounds Italian to me. All right. Take a quick break, and we'll be back with our main second. All right. Alright, we're back from that. Quick little break. Uh I changed drinks tonight, uh, because I'm out of cherry seven up. So I'm sticking with the cherry theme, though, because I'm drinking a Jack Daniels cherry Coca-Cola. So I went from moonshine and cherry seven up to Jack and Cook.

SPEAKER_01 34:40

Uh just for your information, Lee. It is country of origin, is Italy. It is perfect. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:58

Beraficio. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't not believe you. It's just Amber Shock is not an Italian word. I'm just I'm assuming it's like a translation.

SPEAKER_01 35:09

That's all they give me is Amber Shock. No, actually, the bottle says Amber Shock on it.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Oh well. Maybe it's like that Italian singer from the 70s who had a song that was like all gibberish that was supposed to sound like English. All right. Tonight we are looking at the 40th anniversary of Pixar. Pixar's story begins in the late 1970s at Lucasfilm's Computer Division, where a small group of computer scientists and artists started experimenting with digital animation. In 1986, Steve Jobs purchased the division and transformed it into Pixar, focusing on both hardware and storytelling innovation. Early shorts, like Luxo Jr. in 1986, showcased their ability to bring emotion to computer-generated images and earned industry attention. A landmark partnership with Walt Disney Pictures led to the release of Toy Story in 1995, the first fully computer-animated feature film, which became a massive success. Pixar continued its run with critically acclaimed films like Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, and Ups, blending technical innovation with heartfelt storytelling. In 2006, Disney acquired Pixar, solidifying its place as one of the most influential animation studios in film history.

SPEAKER_01 36:29

The funny thing is, Disney also bought Lucasfilms, so now Lucasfilms and Pixar are back together under one umbrella.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

That's right. That's right. And uh I don't know if other uh I mean I'm sure there's other people like me who get some of the like DreamWorks movies kind of confused with it too, because like I was looking for Zoot Zootopia on the list, but I'm like Zootopia is not Pixar, I think it's DreamWorks or something, but it's still Disney. It's like it's so it's Disney animation, yeah. It's like so confused.

SPEAKER_01 36:58

DreamWorks, I think, is still universal, it's still universal, yeah. Um, but I think um you have Walt Disney animation, and then you have uh Pixar, which are under the same umbrella, but still different divisions.

SPEAKER_03 37:14

So I looked it up just so we have a definitive list here. These are the films released by Pixar, they are the the major feature film releases as as uh categorized by that, and uh there were 30 of them starting in '95 with Toy Story in '98, Toy Story 2 in '99, Monsters Inc. in 2001, Finding Nemo in 2003, Incredibles in 2004, Cars in 06, Ratatouille in 07, Wally in 08, WALL in 09, Toy Story 3 in 2010, Cars 2 in 2011, Brave in 2012, Monsters U in 2013, Inside Out in 2015, The Good Dinosaur, one that I totally forgot was a Pixar film in 2015, Finding Dory in 2016, Cars 3 and Coco both came out in 2017, Incredibles 2 and 18, Toy Story 4 in 2019, Onward in 2020, Soul in 2020, Luca in 2021, Turning Red in 2022, Light Year in 2022, Elemental in 23, Inside Out 2 in 2024, last year there was the release of Helio, and this year the release of Hoppers. And later this year, 2 Story 5. Two story 5. Coming to a theater near you. So uh instead of just talking about the films themselves, uh, we were gonna just do a couple of little discussion points because I think it'd be fun just to kind of talk about elements of the films. So the first discussion point I have here is what's the most emotionally devastating, devastating Pixar moment? Oh, it's gotta be the beginning of up. I feel like the first 15 minutes of up is usually like the go-to.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

Yeah, watching the first 15 minutes of up is like watching the first 20 minutes of saving private Ryan, you know, a little less death. Um in the you know, just as much tragic.

SPEAKER_03 39:19

So I'm looking at the list that I just read, and um like Finding Nemo is a pretty devastating opening scene, too.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Yeah, yeah. Um but it it follows Disney's yeah, let's kill the recipe of Kill the Mom.

SPEAKER_03 39:36

Kill the Mom. Uh Inside Out is pretty devastating. Oh, uh what was the bing bong, yeah. Um, and just her general, like the depression depiction of childhood depression throughout the film, too, is pretty pretty pretty brutal. Uh Coco has a couple scenes in it that are sort of yeah uh emotional.

SPEAKER_02 39:55

Yeah, song singing at the end with his gray is his uh buela.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

Yeah, abuela, yeah, that's a really good one. Um, I'm gonna say, like, I think the go-to is usually the first 15 minutes of up. But I also want to throw in there the incinerator scene in Toy Story 3. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

I I think the um first 15 minutes of up is more relatable. Yeah, because at some point we all could be in that position. Hey, I know, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

It's and but the that incinerator scene in Toy Story 3, we could also also find ourselves in in that position.

SPEAKER_06 40:36

Um I should have done the promo photo.

SPEAKER_03 40:39

I think the promo photo for the night should have been the three of us looking like toys in Toy Story in the incinerator pit. Holding hands as we're going down the incinerator, holding hands and then like claws right above us, like pick this up. That class. I would say definitely the first 15 minutes of upper. I always like that one. I think the depiction of depression and the disappearance of the childhood imaginary friend and inside out is a pretty close one. Yeah, and definitely the incinerator pit in Toy Story 3. I mean, I'm sure there's other ones in there that people can argue. There's a couple on this list I haven't seen yet. I haven't seen uh um turning red.

SPEAKER_02 41:22

That one's good. Um I haven't seen Lightyear. It yeah, so Lightyear was not that good.

SPEAKER_03 41:31

So like I've seen everything else on here. I haven't seen Elio or Hoppers, they're just you know what?

SPEAKER_02 41:38

I don't think I've seen any of the sequels to the Cars movies. Uh and I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Yeah, you know I was good with Cars 1.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:48

I was kind of disappointed with the Incredibles 2. I thought that could have been better.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Um I think it's underrated. Yeah, which one worked?

SPEAKER_02 42:02

Oh yeah. Luca was pretty good too.

SPEAKER_03 42:07

Luca was Luca, I Luca's like the good dinosaur in that the animation looks so much different than what you're used to with Pixar. Yeah, I kind of forget the Pixar films. Um what film represents the peak of their powers? I'm gonna say this. I think it's it's a range of films, starting with Monsters Inc. Because you had Monsters Inc., Finding Nemo, Incredibles, Cars, Ratatouille, Wally, Up, and Toy Story 3 all in a row. Yeah. And it wasn't until Cars 2 that there was like a little bit of a dip. Well, you can't all have home runs. No, and then like they came back up a little bit with Inside Out, uh, but then it like dipped again and and hasn't really gotten back to that point yet. Like Inside Out 2 did really well, but everything else was kind of like well, I think Coco was just Coco did all, yeah. But I think that that span of what is that, like eight years or something. Yeah. It's just like banger after banger after banger.

SPEAKER_01 43:18

If I had to pick one though, I'm gonna go with Wally, just because you go through 90% of that movie without anything but just seeing Eva and Wally, and kids were just still fascinated by the animation.

SPEAKER_02 43:35

Yeah, yeah, there didn't have to be dialogue, there didn't even have to really be interaction between characters. He's isolated, you know. His his friend is a cockroach.

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Um but uh I you know, just watching him know that the the stuff with the humans was part of the film until I saw the film. Oh yeah. Like I just thought it was going to be Wally the entire time. I didn't realize there was going to be, you know, people that look like me in floating chairs. You shouldn't have the floating chairs now. Yeah, I do. I really do. I want a robot waiting on me. I I was also, I also that film also, I think, was one of the first Pixar films that had live action stuff added into it as well. Because you had like the little movie he would watch all the time, which was a film. Yeah, yeah. You had um who's the actor. Willard Willard, uh Fred Willard, who popped up a couple of times in the film. Um, yeah, so I mean, like I I'm not gonna argue that I think Wally is a masterpiece of the film. Yeah, yeah. Um I was gonna say Monsters Inc. did really, really well. Finding Nemo was like oh yeah, that's the box office, and I feel like that's kind of like where Pixar became Pixar. I mean, you had Toy Story 1 and 2 and A Bug's Life. Toy Story was without Toy Story, you wouldn't have the rest of these films, right? True.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

I mean, you could say a lot of them, since they're a lot of them are powerhouses. I just go just because of what that movie did with pretty much nothing, you know. Yeah, there's nothing going on, you know. All you do is watch it, and it was huge.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

You know what I was surprised is is uh a hit that fell into it, and maybe it just it was lucky because I got caught between cars and Wally, but Ratatouille, you know. I love Ratatouille, it's a great movie, but uh honestly, you think of the premise of it, it's like this shouldn't be a hit.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

This is kind of like the rescuers, this is like you know it's more classic Disney because it's the OSHA violation, yeah. That's a health violation, but again, it's it's it's fighting Nemo, um Ratatouille are more classic Disney style movies because it's more animals, it's not people. Um I think that's why it hit so well because it was more you you can and you know then you can get a ride out of it now.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

Ratatouille made rats look cute.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

You know, well the only other thing is that the rat before that is the cutest little thing. I mean, the only thing I had before that was you know Willard forum, so you know you don't that don't make them look cute at all. Oh and the Crispin Glover.

SPEAKER_02 46:26

Yeah, if you're going to hire Crispin Glover to make people feel sentimental about rats, you you've already made a mistake.

SPEAKER_01 46:32

Oh, or or the secret of them. I mean, you know, half those rats had to kill the other half, so you know, come on.

SPEAKER_03 46:38

So yeah, I mean it's it's it's it's an arguable, you know, uh uh question. Like there's just it it's it's a definitely a matter of opinion, like what you think the peak power. I think it's 2001 to 2010, that nine-year period where it was just box office, box office, box office, box office without stopping. Like that's that's just that that series there. And that's kind of like they I feel like they've been coasting on that. Like they can make whatever movie they want, and if they lose money, they're still doing okay because how much bank they've made in the past. Uh, deep cuts here. Uh, Pixar didn't start with Toy Story, they started with short films as experimental storytelling labs. Many of their biggest ideas, such as emotion, object perspective, silent storytelling, were tested here first. Their shorts were basically Pixar's creative DNA, all starting with Luxo Jr., uh, which is the name of the lamp that you often see at the very beginning of the Pixar films, where he jumps up and down and squashes the letter I and the word Pixar and then stops. So Luxo was their first animated feature film or animated short film. Uh uh, so the next thing we got here, I I was really looking forward to this because this is fun. This is uh gathered from the internet, so you know it's all accurate. Hot takes about Pixar films. I narrowed it down to eight. There were a lot of them. I narrowed them down to like eight that I thought were really fun. Uh so we can argue whether or not we agree with these hot takes or not. Uh, hot take number one. I don't have the names of the people who came up with these hot takes, these are just gathered from various sources. So here's hot take number one. Toy Story Three is overrated. The incinerator scene is powerful, yes, but the rest plays it safe and retreads familiar ground.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

No, man. I mean, even beyond the um incinerator scene, the ending where Andy has to say goodbye. Andy has to give up the toys, and I I love the bond between him and um oh, what was the kid's name? It wasn't Ollie. Bonnie what's that? Bonnie. Bonnie between him and Bonnie, and he's describing what each of the character each of the toys is, and I mean it makes you feel good that the toys are getting a second life, but it's it's just it breaks your heart. Andy looks a hell of a lot better when he goes away to college than he did in Toy Story 1, too.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

I thought of it too, like as we're as I was reading the hot take, I was like, we forgot about that in the devastating moments question. Like it's kind of a devastating moment. It made me made me wonder where my what my old toys were thinking and doing at that moment, you know. Um, I think that's a that's a bad take. Like, I don't think Toy Story. I to me Toy Story 3 is the best out of all the Toy Stories. They may have said four was overrated, but I definitely think four was unnecessary. Um I thought three ended on such a uh a good note, like a bitter, sweet, hopeful note, you know. Anyway. Uh hot take number two. Inside out two didn't need to exist. The original told a complete perfect story, but sometimes more isn't more.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

I I somewhat agree. Somewhat. Um honestly, I I just I think with Riley growing up, uh it's good to have like a uh the sequel which kind of branches into insecurities, um anxiety and things, yeah, the emotions that she deals with earlier, or later, I should say, not earlier, but later uh in her teenage years, which I mean we've we're teachers, and and I'm sure Mike was a teenager at one point in time. No, um to see how kids go young man to old man, you know. He gave up the pacifier and put in a beer bottle. Um but yeah, you know, I mean you can you it's it's it wasn't a uh it didn't did it need to happen, not necessarily, but is it an okay is it a good sequel? Yeah, I'd say it's a good sequel.

SPEAKER_03 50:55

I mean you kind of make an argument about a lot of sequels, like did they need to exist? But you know, if they make money, they're gonna have a sequel.

SPEAKER_01 51:02

So well, right, but you you have look at my inside out came out in 15. The second one didn't come out to what 24. So it's still uh it's still focusing on the set the kids that watched the first one are now that age that are going through those newer emotions. Yeah, that's what they were targeting for.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Yeah, and honestly, it's probably got a better rationale for having a sequel than any other sequel. Finding Dory didn't need to exist, cars too didn't need to exist. Cars 3 didn't need to exist. Cars 3 didn't need to exist, but they're possible but Inside Out 2, the growth of the human and and uh the growth of the the subject and and the emotions, the new emotions, um, and dealing with them at a different age, I think is is a perfect sequel, continuation of the story, I should say.

SPEAKER_03 51:55

Yes. I want to believe that Pixar is just not out to make a money grab. No, not always, yeah. Like they're I think some of them they do, but I feel like they put so much care for the most part in the films that they make that I agree like with what Kevin says here, that this is more about just expanding the story of this kid growing up.

SPEAKER_06 52:15

You know, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

I don't know. I I I don't know partially kind of agree with that one, but not completely. Uh I I honestly kind of think I agree with the next one. Up is a top-tier short film attached to a mid-tier movie. That opening montage carries a lot of the film's reputation. Well, it's it's it's the whole backstory for the movie. But it goes from like this this very like down-to-earth, realistic relationship between these two people over decades into this whimsical, you know, fantasy style adventure.

SPEAKER_01 52:58

Well, the whole the whole premise of the of the beginning was them going to a fantasy whimsical type place anyway.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

But then realizing that reality was not gonna allow that to happen.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

Yeah, yeah. So he got a bunch of balloons, and a little and a little Asian boy. I would say this to it. I think the opening montage was so um strong they went full 360 the other way for the rest of the movie to balance it.

SPEAKER_03 53:37

Yeah, I mean it kind of like it it overshadowed the rest of the film.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

I think it would have been a great short film by itself. Um I think I mean, I like the movie, I'm not knocking it. I like I like up, but I'm not I think like that that opening 15 minutes really does kind of overpower the rest of the film.

SPEAKER_02 53:58

Yeah, no, I I guess I agree. I feel like the um relationship between um um the main character and uh God, I'm doing horrible with the names tonight. Carl and uh Randall Carl and was that Randall boy Randall, yeah. Carl and Randall could have been made stronger, but you mean you do see that Randall needs once really a parental figure who's not his his housekeeper, you know. And um Carl needs companionship since losing Ellie, so it could also all be in his head, like maybe he's uh you know dreaming it all. But the whole side story with the other explorer who got left up there and everything else is a little much, and nobody ever names a bird Kevin. That's a stupid name for a bird.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

It's I was just a stupid name in general. One of my favorite lines in cinema. Kevin is a girl.

SPEAKER_02 55:04

Stupid name for a bird.

SPEAKER_01 55:06

Hey, hey, hey, there's nothing wrong with squirrel.

SPEAKER_02 55:08

Yeah, I still I love Doug. I love the inclusion of Doug. I like the uh cone of shame, you know, the whole the whole play, you know, all the comedy that it you know centers around the dogs.

SPEAKER_03 55:21

The uh the dog with the high-pitched voice, and then when you finally hear what the real voice sounds like, Randall's like, I don't like that voice. Uh let's see what's the next one we got here. Incredibles 2 is a major drop-off from the original. Same themes, less impact, and Elasticirl quietly steals the show.

SPEAKER_01 55:41

Uh I'm gonna disagree with the last part because the my the most of the movie is about Elasticirl to begin with. I think Jack Jack's part of the freaking show.

SPEAKER_03 55:52

I was just I was thinking the same thing. Jack Jack steals the show. The movie is about Elasticirl, it's not her stealing the show, it's showing, you know, it's supposed to show it's her show, it's her show, and how how Mr. Incredibles having a hard time coping with the fact that he's not the star.

SPEAKER_01 56:11

But Jack Jack does steal the show to the point that they made a whole short just about that part of the movie.

SPEAKER_03 56:20

The uh Incredibles 3, I think, is currently in pre-production. They need to get a movement on that one because Craig D. Nelson is not getting any younger. Uh, but I yeah, I also but I do agree that it is a kind of a drop-off. It's not a major drop-off, but I don't I wasn't as satisfied with it as I was with the original.

SPEAKER_01 56:45

No, no. And a lot of times, in a lot of their sequels, I think, drop off from the original. They have.

SPEAKER_03 56:52

Um I mean, not in a case like Toy Story, because I think they it dropped off a little bit with two, but got better with three.

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yeah, but if you're only going one and two, which is mostly what they have, the second one normally drops off from the first one.

SPEAKER_03 57:06

Wow, this is a real hot take. The next one here. Ratatouille is Pixar's best film, not just animated, best film. Period. Fight me.

SPEAKER_01 57:20

I I disagree. I mean, I like the movie, I think it's a great movie. I think they have better movies. Wow, what the fuck? Apparently, Leah uh uh Kevin doesn't agree with it either. He's told his microphone to fight.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

That's a lot of whiskey.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Well, he you know, he says fight me and Kevin's throwing down.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

I I'll say this Ratatouille is my favorite Pixar film. I really love Ratatouille. I don't think it's Pixar's best film, but it's my favorite film. Uh, I'm not gonna say best film, period, either. Like, you know. Great movie. Great movie. I love it. Great movie. Love the movie. Probably the one I've watched the most. The Pixar film I've watched the most is Ratatouille. I really want Rats cooking dinner for me. It makes that peasant dish look so good at the end. Uh favorite film, not best film, not best film period either. I'll fight this fucking guy. I don't know who it is. Uh Finding Dory is unnecessary, but still kind of great. Emotionally manipulative, yes, effective, also, yes. I agree with the unnecessary part.

unknown 58:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 58:41

I don't agree with the rest. I don't think Ryan Dory was good at all. Uh the only part of that what I liked was the beluga whale. The beluga whale was fun, and I liked the octopus.

SPEAKER_01 58:52

That yeah, the octopus stories.

SPEAKER_03 58:53

They were fun, but like the rest of it was just, yeah, it was it was a it was a one-note film because Dory is a one-note character, basically. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 59:01

I like weaver doing the uh announcements in the background.

SPEAKER_03 59:07

Yeah, she was the one doing the announcements in Wally as well. Um Dory works as a side character, that's why she was so funny in finding Nemo. She's not a character that should be carrying a film. Uh let's see. Wally loses momentum once the humans show up. The first act is nearly perfect, then it becomes a different movie. That's what I was just saying about us.

SPEAKER_01 59:35

I I disagree with that.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

I think I disagree with it because I'm really jealous of those humans. I want to fucking flip and share.

SPEAKER_01 59:41

It just I mean, you gotta think the whole point is humans left. Now you gotta, you know, once they in evil finds the plant, it's time for them to come back. So you have to go to the humans.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

It also backs up your whole be afraid of AI thing because the robots are trying to keep it from happening. Right. No, I I think you need that last part of the film.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:08

You do, you need that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:11

You need to find out the whole reason behind why the earth is the way it is, and that that's how you end it. Yeah, yeah. Plus, all the people in the film walk like I do. I don't agree with that one. And then the last one I have here Coco is Pixar's most emotionally complete film. Story, visuals, music. It's the full package with no weak spots.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:32

I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:36

Yeah, it's it's a good emotional film. I don't know if it's the most complete. Yeah, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:44

I mean, I I like the story and the visuals in it. It's a gorgeous film, it's such a beautiful film to watch.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:50

Um, and I really like the music in it. Like, I like all the stuff this guy's saying about the package part of it, but I don't know if that makes it the most emotionally complete film.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:58

If I was gonna go the most emotionally complete film, I would go with Inside Out.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:01

I was yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I think Inside, I mean, because Inside Out is about emotional, about emotions, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:08

I think Coco is one, I didn't see it in the theater. I wasn't like super interested in it, and then I happened to watch it. We were like down the shore with Katie's family, and they had it on, and the kids were just doing their own thing and not watching it, and I ended up sitting down watching it and thinking, wow, this is fucking amazing. This is a really good movie. Like, I'm I'm really impressed with this film. Um, so yeah, so those are some hot takes. Uh, let's do a top five here. Uh, we had done a ranking before. We we talked about our favorite Pixar films, and we kind of ranked the ones that were out at the time. Um, I don't know if they've changed for you or not. Like, mine, I think my list has changed a little bit. Uh, so I'll go first so you you can you can at least hear a little bit of it. My number five is Coco, because I again I was like surprised by it when I first saw it, and I really, really enjoyed it. So that's my number five. Uh my number four is finding Nemo. I love it. I love the jokes in it. I like how there's like stuff that for the kids, but there's also stuff to keep me interested as well. Uh number two or number three for me is Toy Story Three, mostly because of that incinerator scene. Number two for me is The Incredibles. I think it's one of the best superhero films I've ever seen, and not just one of the best Pixar movies. Like, I think it's such a good I I really believe people would sue superheroes and force them into hiding, like they do in that film. And then I already said my number one's ratatouille. Yeah, just just missing the cut is Monsters Inc. I love Monsters Inc.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

This is a hard one because I'm gonna go with no kind of order, no particular order, yeah. Um is a great film. Finding Nemo and the Incredibles. Those three definitely are on my list. Wally, and then I'm gonna go with Onward. Nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:09

Um, I think mine, and again, I I'm not putting mine in any particular order. Uh well, maybe I should. I don't know. No, I'm not gonna. Um I would have to say uh finding Nemo, probably number five, number four being um up, uh number three being Toy Story 3, uh, number two being Wally, and number one being Inside Out.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:44

Okay, yeah and just to scale on with why I picked the ones that it is the ones I would I've watched over and over and over again. Where's my super soup?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:55

Like of the ones on my list, Coco is the one I've seen the the least amount of times, but I really like the film. Whereas Ratatouille, I've seen way more than anything else. That's why it's my number one. Um, but I can't, I it's a hard list to like make because it's to me, I think it's ever changing. And you know, my top five might not be the same thing next week that it is today.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

So I think it's easier to make a top ten than a top five.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

Yeah, I think I chose Insight Out as number one because it was such an original concept of you know characterizing your emotions and how they interact with each other, like um, you know, giving them a consciousness and everything else, and and how that's like how they develop that whole compartment compartmentalization of emotions and memories and things in a kid's head, and how they're saved, and what's a core memory. And the even the most important part was how sadness is a necessity. Everyone tries to avoid it because it is what it is, it's sadness, but you need it. It's it's actually one of the more powerful emotions. Uh, the one downside I'd say is the other three emotions with the ex anger gets a lot of play, but it's still a minor character. But the other two emotions are like almost useless, you know. I was gonna say I like joy, sadness, and anger.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:14

Yeah, I like that anger is voiced by one of my favorite standable comics of all time, Lewis Black. Right, it's a perfect casting.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:22

Well, you would also have to think as a kid that young, those are probably the three most prominent emotions that kids have.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:30

Yeah, especially a kid like the one in the film. Uh so here are some closing thoughts. Pixar didn't just change animation, they changed how we tell stories, one emotionally devastating talking object at a time. Yeah, I think we can say we all love Pixar films. It's it's hard not to love them. They're they're usually pretty unique, except for maybe like the sequels a little bit, but yeah. It they they make us think that rats can cook. Humans are too fat to walk in the future. I'm living proof. And that and then anger is voiced by Lewis Black. It makes you make you think all that. Do you have any uh beer tribute for your tonight, Mike?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

Uh I got I got this from my uh other other other other book about beer, the philosophy of beer. Uh each year at the beginning of August, London hosts the Great Beer Festival, the largest celebration of unfiltered and unpasteurized ale on the planet. Thousands of individuals from the UK and overseas congregate for several days of liquid feasting brought together by the world's favorite alcoholic drink. It is a diverse crowd, and attendees have little in common, but together they create an atmosphere of utopia, harmony, and gentility. The hubbub is indescribable. The noise, the noisy but cheerful atmosphere created by people talking, laughing, cheering, and celebrating. It's punctuated periodically by a big cheer by a where am I at? I lost where I'm at. A big cheer when someone drops a glass and it smashes on the floor. This is as violent as it gets. And happiness prevails because they are all here for beer. Just like beer, just like their beer create creators opposite numbers thousands of years ago. Something got screwed up in the AI. Uh in Middle East, uh Middle East lands of summer, Babylon and Egypt, the festivalgoers are motivated by the desire of jollification to drink and to have a good time, unlike their ancient counterparts. They are not visibly worshiping the deities of beer in unhibited, uninhibited public ribels lasting for days, but the sentiment is the same.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:14

I learned two new words tonight decoction and jollification. I know the word jolly. I've never heard the word jollification before.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:25

The act of making jolly.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:27

Yes, the act of making decoction is the act of of uh of boiling plants until they become chemical elements. I looked it up. Uh we have a cinema quote of the week.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:45

I'll do my best here, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:48

The monkeys changed my life, but ruined my acting career. Uh different Davy Jones. This was the English Davy Jones.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:01

He was English.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:02

He was English. That's the Bill and I English Davy Jones. This is like the monkeys changed my little biting career. Send me down to the brain. I was gonna say, I don't think the monkeys ruined his acting career. I think the movie Head written by Jack Nicholson and starring the monkeys ruined his acting career. Uh, how were our drinks tonight? Gentlemen, Mike, how was your uh taster tonight?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

It was uh it was it was good, but it was it's not as smooth as some of the others, as let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:46

We'll be trying the 130-proof one next week, so we'll see what that was your uh gene as I have not had that much straight whiskey in a while.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:58

Well, harder than beer, huh? Yeah, yeah. Well, you didn't have all four of the tasters the same night on the same night as you know, me and Leo did, because we drink all four of those things.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:08

We did all four tasters and then drank more afterwards. We were hurting the next day. I had a cherryful night tonight because the first I had the dirty Shirley, which was my cherry seven up and maraschino cherry moonshine, and then after that I switched to a Jack Daniels Cherry Coca-Cola. So I had a night full of cherry and alcohol. Uh, thank you for joining us tonight for episode 237, Pixar at 40. We hope you enjoyed listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Again, you can email us at films of fermentation at gmail.com. You could send us a very lovely note on Reddit if you'd like. Uh, you can find all of our social media and podcast links on Linktree at slash films of fermentation. Uh, watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku on YouTube and on Rumble, or join us on patreon.com slash films of fermentation, or text us at 904-867-4466. Please join us next time around at the crossroads between pickled and fermented for episode 238. It's the year of anniversaries continued. Next week, we are going to be talking about the 25th anniversary, the silver anniversary of the Lord of the Rings, the Fellowship of the Ring. One does not simply just walk into the birth of a thousand memes. In the meantime, I'm Leo.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

Um Kevin.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:34

I'm Mike. This has been the Films of Fermentation Podcast. You have a friend and us. Cheers. Cheers.