Movies that are better drunk

This week on Films and Fermentation, we're tackling one of cinema's most important questions: are some movies actually better after a few drinks? From cult classics and glorious train wrecks to action movies that somehow become masterpieces at beer number three, we're ranking the films that improve with a little liquid assistance. We'll debate whether this is a testament to the movies themselves or simply evidence that our standards become increasingly flexible as the evening progresses. Expect questionable opinions, highly scientific analysis, and at least one movie that somehow jumps from a 5/10 to an 11/10 after two Stouts. So grab your favorite beverage and join us as we explore the fine line between cinematic genius and "you know what... this is actually amazing."

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SPEAKER_01 0:04

Greetings, humans. I come in peace and with podcasts. Welcome to Pod Nation Media, home of the KJNA podcast, the Undiscovered Entrepreneur, Monster Island Film Vault Cthulhu Jack presents and films and fermentations. All streaming exclusively on Goku.

SPEAKER_07 2:01

We are a movie and alcohol podcast, and tonight we are talking about movies that are better when you're drunk. So, as I said, we are films of Fermentation, Movie and Alcohol Podcast, number one beer podcast on Good Pods, number one alcohol podcast on Good Pods. We're in the top 10 for TV and film reviews on Good Pods. I haven't checked the Madagascar list this week, so I don't know where we are, but I'm assuming we're still number one with the uh lemurs. I'm Leo. I'm Kevin. I'm Mike. We're three friends like talking shit about movies. We're getting shit fixed. This week on Films and Fermentation, we're tackling one of cinema's most important questions. Are some movies actually better after a few drinks? From cult classics and glorious train wrecks to action movies that somehow become masterpieces at beer number three. We're ranking the films that improve with a little liquid assistance. We'll debate whether this is a testament to the movies themselves or simply evidence that our standards became increasingly flexible as the evening progresses. Expect questionable opinions, highly scientific analysis, and at least one movie that somehow jumps from a five out of ten to an eleven out of ten after two stouts. So grab your favorite beverage and join us as we explore the fine line between cinematic genius. And you know what? This is actually amazing. I forgot to put uh fat man on the list. Don't forget to drop us an email at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all of our social media podcast links. Become part of the films of fermentation family by watching us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku, on YouTube or on Rumble, or by supporting us on Patreon. We are an independent podcast, which means we are listeners supported. You can support us for as little as a dollar a month to receive members only content. Buy merchandise at teespring.com or text us at 904-867-4466. We did get an email from uh Sad Boy, who is somebody who's actually contributed to the show before, to let us know that Kevin and I were talking about a movie last week. I don't remember what the film was, but we mentioned that it'd probably be really good if the remake was uh directed by Benicio Del Toro. And uh Sad Boy emailed us to let us know that we meant Guillermo del Toro.

SPEAKER_08 4:14

I don't know. Benicio del Toro could have been a good drink.

SPEAKER_07 4:17

I mean, again, we also we drink the whole time we're doing this show, so who knows what we were thinking.

SPEAKER_11 4:23

Not only these movies we're about to talk about are better when we're drunk. Listening to us is better when we're when you're drunk.

SPEAKER_07 4:30

Unfortunately, I usually listen on the ride home after I've edited the show, and I can't really be drinking.

SPEAKER_09 4:34

So he's only buzzed, you know.

SPEAKER_11 4:36

Yeah, yeah. So like the DJ in Germany used to say, the more you drink, the better we sound.

SPEAKER_07 4:44

Except he said it in German, right?

SPEAKER_11 4:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 4:50

The bet better we sound. Uh speaking of drinks, what are we drinking tonight, gentlemen? Uh Mike, why don't we go first tonight? Kevin, what do you go for tonight?

SPEAKER_09 4:59

Uh, just you guys are familiar. You were over here, you imbited in these over the weekend. So we drank them. We did not enough because I still got a fridge full of them. Um, I have Sam Adams American Light, which is crisp and smooth, and 4.2% alcohol by volume, and I have the Sam Adam uh Lemon Rattler portrocker, which is uh six point no four point five percent alcohol by volume. So I'm going a little late tonight.

SPEAKER_07 5:29

All right. Nothing wrong with a little Sam Adams every now and then. Mike, are you doing a uh blind barrels or you got something different tonight?

SPEAKER_11 5:38

No, I'm done with blind barrels until the next uh batch comes in. So I am drinking some old smoky blackberry moonshine uh whiskey.

SPEAKER_07 5:54

Moonshine week was or day was last week, right? Yeah, so I felt bad that I didn't realize it was moonshine day, so I'm making up for it by drinking moonshine this evening. So I am drinking some old smokies, strawberry moonshine, which is uh it does have an alcohol by volume somewhere on here. It is 32 and a half percent alcohol by volume, that is 65 proof. Uh, I am drinking strawberry moonshine as well as mountainberry moonshine mixed with it, which is also this is 40 proof, a little bit lighter. And I'm mixing it with wild cherry Pepsi for color. So all that together is pretty good, pretty tasty. It's kind of like a fruit punch that kicks you into bowls and takes your wallet. So yes, they do have to work more. All right, Kev. Anyway, let's play with uh Mike's song.

SPEAKER_06 7:04

This week in film history with mine.

SPEAKER_11 7:27

1928, Albert Hitchcock's silent film, Case of Jonathan Drew, or The Lodger is released.

SPEAKER_07 7:35

I love Hitchcock. I am not familiar with his silent films. I wish I'm gonna have to like get caught up on news. We have talked that uh about extensively, especially during our Christmas episode uh this season, where we talk about originals and remakes. And uh one that I like to remake, but the original is uh excellent as well. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_11 8:11

Okay, 1963, Cleopatra, directed by Joseph McQuex. Thank you. And starring Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, premieres in New York City, then the most expensive film ever made.

SPEAKER_07 8:26

Also, then the most expensive box office flop ever made.

SPEAKER_11 8:29

Yeah, most of that was Elizabeth Taylor's, you know.

SPEAKER_07 8:33

For her, it was it was not her salary, it was a really ambitious production with a lot of like set designs and special effects.

SPEAKER_09 8:44

It was like it wasn't it wasn't it was trying to be an epic it was trying to it was trying to be the Ten Commandments by Cecil B. DeMill.

SPEAKER_07 8:51

Like that, like Ben Harr, like yeah, it was trying to be these like these like historical epics, and it flopped at the box office and didn't get his money back.

SPEAKER_11 9:03

Next one, sir. 1967, you only looked twice, fifth James Bond film starring Sean Carrie screenplay by Ronald Ronald Dow.

SPEAKER_07 9:15

That's to me, one of my favorite James Bond facts of all time. That that Rowled Dahl.

SPEAKER_09 9:21

James and the giant peach, Raoul Dowl James and the Giant Peach and Willow.

SPEAKER_07 9:28

Yes, that the witches that Rowled Down Doll wrote You Only Live Twice.

SPEAKER_11 9:34

Is this screenplay? So it went from book to the screenplay.

SPEAKER_07 9:38

Who was the villain and you only lived twice? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_09 9:41

It was the spider from the giant peach.

SPEAKER_11 9:45

Isn't that the one they repelled front down into the volcano?

SPEAKER_07 9:49

I think so. Yeah, I don't was it Blofeld? I think so. Like a Blofeld one because that was that was like a Spectre uh Spectre film.

SPEAKER_11 9:57

Yeah. Hold on. Not now. I gotta tell not to try to download, you know, update right now.

SPEAKER_07 10:08

Boy, this is what happens when you record on Wednesday night. Everything goes wrong.

SPEAKER_11 10:13

Schedule restart. There we go. 1968 U.S. premiere of the horror film Rosemary's Baby, based on the best-selling novel by the same name by IR11.

SPEAKER_10 10:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_07 10:29

Very creepy film, slow burn film. I don't think it will go over well in Kevin's film play.

SPEAKER_09 10:35

No, no, it definitely wouldn't go over well. And honestly, it's a lot of just suspense. There's nothing scary.

SPEAKER_07 10:48

The omen is my is is my like the one I I favor more is terms of like children from hell films.

SPEAKER_09 10:54

But uh the exorcist is mine.

SPEAKER_07 10:56

The exorcist is another one, but like Reservoir Baby is is like you said, yeah, it's more suspense, but it is pretty pretty pretty creepy. He has his father's eyes. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_11 11:10

All right, where are we at? Uh here we go. We're gonna start a run here. 1981. Raiders of the Lost Dark, the first in the Indian Giants film, directed by Steven Spielberg, starring Harrison Ford, and a story by George Lucas premiers. I've heard of this movie.

SPEAKER_07 11:33

Um not this not, I mean, totally different movie, but same actor. The kid uh my students were going around doing like these survey things with teachers, and one of the questions they asked was, Who was your favorite president? And some people were like, you know, Abe Lincoln or or whoever they were saying. And they came to me and they're like, Mr. Leah, who's your favorite president? I went, Harrison Ford and in in in Air Force One.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

Get off my way, and they're like, What?

SPEAKER_09 12:02

I'm sorry, I got that wrong. You meant Benjamin Franklin.

SPEAKER_07 12:07

Just because he's on the hundred dollar bill does not mean he was a president. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_11 12:14

In 1982, E.T. The Extra Treasure, directed by Steven Spielberg, starring Henry Thomas and Drew Barrymore was released. That's that's that that's what the bracket we should have done. We should do special movies, movies.

SPEAKER_07 12:30

You would have to do a 70s, eight, like 70s, 80s Spielberg versus 90s to like 2000 Spielberg. Um so this episode will be by what by the time this episode drops, Spielberg's new film, uh Disclosure Day will have hit theaters. Yeah. Uh, and I'm hearing good things about it. I'm really looking forward to it because it's nice to see Spielberg returning to his alien movie roots.

SPEAKER_11 12:58

So uh next one, sir. In 1984, Ghostbusters, an American supernatural comedy film directed and produced by Ivan Ritten, starring Bill Murray, Dan Arkrod, Harold Rayman, and Ernie Hudson premieres.

SPEAKER_07 13:15

It's only starring Ernie Hudson in the widescreen version of the film. If you watch the box screen version on TV, he gets cut out in a few scenes.

SPEAKER_09 13:28

That wouldn't have happened if it had Eddie.

SPEAKER_11 13:30

If it was Eddie Murray, it definitely wouldn't happen. All you hear from the side where there's nobody there. Shit, that would have turned you white.

SPEAKER_07 13:40

You see him in that scene. It's more the um when they're on top of the building at the end fighting the stay buff marshmallow. And there's a few, there's a few scenes where all four of them are in frame, but if you watch it on the on the box screen on like the old VHS, it's just the three white dudes and he gets cut off. Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_11 14:04

1989, Star Trek V, The Final Frontier, directed by William Shatner and Starry, William Shatner and Lydia Leonard Nemoy premieres in America.

SPEAKER_09 14:15

I have to ask Mike, because you are the uh Star Trek guru. Wasn't the whole basis of this movie done in one of the episodes in the original series? Didn't it happen already? Like, didn't wasn't there a whole thing with the guy kind of fighting himself and he thought it was God or he was, you know, he didn't think it was God, but he was like um he didn't fight himself.

SPEAKER_11 14:41

He was like interdimensional. It's two it's like alternate dimensions between the two guys. That one now if I wanted to base one that was closer to what um was an episode, I I would use the episode the changeling for uh the original uh Star Trek The Motion Picture, which a robot comes back looking for his creator.

SPEAKER_07 15:05

Okay. Wasn't there there was an episode in the original series uh where they they land on a planet where they're kind of like the Greek gods or something?

SPEAKER_11 15:13

Well, they find plenty they find plenty of uh uh aliens that are uh with god like powers and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_07 15:22

So isn't that the one where uh where Shatner ends up ends up uh kissing uh nyshell nickels because they make them? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 15:30

Yeah, that was um that's the polished yeah, that's the one I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_07 15:35

Yeah, so the reason Shatner directed this film was because Nimoy directed the previous two and he was upset about it, and the studio uh uh promised to let him direct one. I'm directing the movie where I meet God. Why? Uh next one, sir.

SPEAKER_11 16:01

This one's all for Kevin and 1997. Batman and Robin, directed by Joel Schumacher, starring George Clean, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Chris O'Donnell, premieres in Los Angeles.

SPEAKER_09 16:13

It also starred the bat nipples.

SPEAKER_11 16:23

It also had uh uh Alyssa Silverstone in uh um that suit. They had badasses in that film too. She had a nice badass in that. She had a nice badass.

SPEAKER_04 16:41

She got a great ass. And you got your head all the way up it.

SPEAKER_07 16:49

Now we've used that clip enough times now that I've noticed he looks like he's about to say fat ass and then changes it to great ass. Like the way his mouth moves, he's like, she's got a great ass.

SPEAKER_11 17:02

He almost forgot his line, probably. 2000 X-Men first film based on the comic series starring Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, and Ian McKellen premieres on LS Island.

SPEAKER_07 17:17

I love the original X-Men film. Um they could have stopped on that series right there. I didn't mind the second one too much.

SPEAKER_09 17:26

I actually thought the second one was good, equally as good, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 17:30

The third one was where it like went off the rails.

SPEAKER_11 17:32

The second one was with is that the Dark Phoenix one?

SPEAKER_09 17:36

No, the second one had a Nightcrawler and um X was she X23s.

SPEAKER_07 17:42

No, this X-Men 2. X2 was Nightcrawler. It's the one where they um like they're against uh Colonel Stryker, the one who made Wolverine Wii A. Yeah, that one wasn't that X3 was the one where they come up with a cure for the mutants with the Phoenix and yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 18:02

When you screw up the storyline to great Dark Phoenix from the cock, no, and I read somewhere that um Tyler Dane, no Tyler Maines, right? The one who played Sabretoan was the one who played Sabretooth, yeah. He just uh uh told people he was diagnosed with breast cancer, so oh that's a sheet just in uh Deadpool and Wolverine.

SPEAKER_07 18:23

He was as Sabretooth. As Sabretooth.

SPEAKER_11 18:27

Uh next one, sir. We're gonna continue on our our comic book movies. Uh 2013 Superman film Man of Steel, directed by Zack Snyder, starring Henry Cavill and Amy Adams, premieres in New York City.

SPEAKER_07 18:43

Yep.

SPEAKER_09 18:46

It was way too dark for me. So it was, it was, it's a shame.

SPEAKER_07 18:51

It's a shame, yeah. Like they were trying too hard to make all these heroes like brooding anti-heroes. Yeah, that's not Superman.

SPEAKER_09 18:59

Not everyone's for Batman, it's not for Superman.

SPEAKER_07 19:02

Not everyone is Batman, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 19:04

No, and it's a shame because I feel like it's a waste of talent when you have Henry Cavill do such a great job with Superman, you know, and uh yeah, and then you balanced him out with uh and and and um what's his name? Molly Shannon. No, not Molly Shannon. Um Molly Shannon is Zod.

SPEAKER_07 19:25

Michael Shannon.

SPEAKER_09 19:26

Michael Shannon, Molly Shannon, I'm Zod. And then you waste it with uh with what's his name as uh uh Lex Luther, you know? Yeah, yeah. So bad.

SPEAKER_07 19:42

You didn't like Russell Crowe, you didn't like Russell Crowe as his father though? Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 19:47

Oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:49

Or or or or Kevin Costner as as Pa Kent Tonham, it's okay to just let people die. They don't have to give away identity. Jesus. That movie was so dark. I didn't what I had the hardest time I under I had the hardest time understanding after that film was why did they have to destroy half the fucking earth to save it?

SPEAKER_09 20:10

Because it's Zack Snyder, big destruction. They destroyed everything.

SPEAKER_07 20:16

Uh like I like the new one a lot. I thought the new one had had the um the like cheerfulness and hopefulness that you want from a Superman film. So I'm I'm looking forward to seeing Supergirl. Yeah. Uh Mike, next one.

SPEAKER_11 20:31

2019, Toy Story 4, directed by Josh Cooley with the voices of Tom Hanks and Tim Allen has its world premiere.

SPEAKER_07 20:41

So I saw an interview earlier today with Tom Hanks and Tim Allen, who were promoting Toy Story 5. And um the the reporter uh interviewing them says to Tom Hanks, uh, would you have stuck with the franchise as long as you have if they used the original name for your character? And he goes, What was the original name for my character? And he said, It wasn't Woody the Cowboy, it was Dummy the Cowboy. And and Tom Hanks goes, I'm learning this for the first time right now.

SPEAKER_11 21:14

I'm still trying to figure out how Woody's in the fifth movie when he stayed out with, you know, I know in the lost toys.

SPEAKER_07 21:22

I also learned today that uh Buzz Lightyear's original name was Lunar Larry. A little too close to leisure suit Larry to me. Lounge Lizard Larry. Lounge Lizard. What's the last one you got there, sir?

SPEAKER_11 21:40

In 2021, Marvel TV series Loki starring Tom Hillson premieres on Disney Plus.

SPEAKER_07 21:48

One of the better series. I like the So let's see if some boom is the thing.

SPEAKER_09 22:34

Another summer of nonsense, gentlemen. Another summer of nonsense. Yeah, you know those Pringles that we were talking about a couple weeks ago? Megan and I came across them at a Walmart on 38, and she goes, you know, you should get these, and we should you should have the guys over, we should do a tasting. I was like, Yeah, probably we could do it. They had if they had like little individuals, that would be better, but whatever. But anyway, here's another gimmick for everybody to look forward to. Coors Light introduces the taller boy can. What is that?

SPEAKER_07 23:10

This right here.

SPEAKER_09 23:15

Most beer drinkers are familiar with a tall boy, but Coors Light is expanding on that concept in anticipation for the 2026 FIFA World Cup. The beer brand on Tuesday, June 9th, debuted a new Taller Boy Canister, a limited edition taller than a tall boy canister designed to hold and chill three full Coors Light cans at once. The Taller Boy can can I just read your second headline for the first time. Is the latest extension of the Coors Light Soccer campaign ahead of the World Cup, which is kicking off this month. Earlier this summer, the brand launched the Coors Call, a summer-long campaign featuring legendary Argentine soccer announcer Andres Cantor and his iconic Goor cheer. Coors Light fans can get the Taller Boy exclusively at shop.coorslight.com for $30, which is $29.99 more than you should be paying for Coors Light. Dropping on June 11th and again on June 18th while supplies last. The Taller Boy is everything. The Coors Call stands for brought to life in physical form. Matt Carpenter, vice president of marketing at Coors Light, said in a news release.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

Oh wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_09 24:52

He went brutal. Okay, let me continue with this. Ahead of the global soccer event, Miller Light launched the Miller Time MVP matchball, a soccer ball about 50% larger than a standard soccer ball that holds up to 12 Miller Lite cans. Comes with a display stand and a reloadable, and is reloadable, but beer not included. I mean, look, the concept is interesting in its appearance, but it's still a Miller Lite. The ball went for 1975, reflecting the year that Miller Light was created. The summer is a massive moment for soccer and beer fans alike, said Courtney Benedict, vice president of marketing for the Miller Light brand family, in a news release as America's original light beer, Miller Light, was made for moments like this. The matchball is our way of celebrating and rewarding the fans who bring the traditions and unmatched energy to every watch party and a soccer ball that fits a 12-pack, that's just fun. Okay, if you say so. You know you can spend all this marketing and all this uh time making your beers better, and that would probably sell more than you know, taller boys and uh and uh soccer balls.

SPEAKER_01 26:19

It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for them.

SPEAKER_09 26:26

And now for some lighter news, Scotland World Cup fans arriving in Boston say they ran out of beer on the flight.

SPEAKER_07 26:35

I was laughing when I saw it.

SPEAKER_09 26:37

Logan Airport is looking more like a stadium as World Cup fans arrive dressed in un dressed in uniform ready for the games. Some Scottish fans cross the pond in a kilt for the entire flight. It's better for air conditioning, if you know what I mean. It's part of their ethos. They are known for three things those kilts, their chants, and their drinking. Been drinking since one o'clock in the morning when I got up, said David Wood as he got out of the terminal at Logan on Wednesday. We ran out of beer, and that was my only complaint, said Darren Wilson talking about his flight. We had my only complaints. My only complaint.

SPEAKER_11 27:15

I thought they were all for the bagpine, you know.

SPEAKER_09 27:20

We had a round of applause when we landed. I don't know if you do that here. That's a very Scottish thing. The pilot on this flight told B WBZ that the beer ran out, they switched to wine. I'm going to have to go have a nice whiskey at my digs, then I'm going to go about town, said Wood, holding up a bag full of large whiskey bottles. I'm going to find Cheers. That's what I want to do. I want to find out. Yeah, if you go to Boston, that you have to do it. You have to find Cheers. You're going to be brutally disappointed, but you know, you have to know it.

SPEAKER_07 28:00

As Kevin and I can attest because we've been to Boston, there's two cheers. There's the Cheers Bar near near uh Quincy Market that is a represent that is like a representation of the show. And then there's the actual Cheers bar, which is not called Cheers, and which hates when tourists come into the building.

SPEAKER_09 28:22

I mean, you're looking, yeah, you find the external shot of Cheers, and then you find the actual bar, you know, replica. Um, what did he say? Okay. And it's it's the spot where everyone knows your name, but by the end of the weekend, Boston will know the Scots, if not by their chanting than by their attire. Graham, Howison, and his two sons wore their kilts on the flight to the U.S. It's a bit hot and sweaty, said Howison. It's a bit uncomfortable, but we wanted to represent Scotland, didn't we? Fans showed up ready for the match against Haiti this weekend. Uh they showed up ready for their match against Haiti this weekend in Foxboro, with some shelling out thousands of dollars to see the team that play in the World Cup for the first time in 28 years. When they sold first sold, they were twelve hundred dollars. Now they're selling, uh now they aren't selling and we're down five hundred dollars, says Alan Begg, who has um tickets for a Scotland match. Carol McNamara bought her tickets online and it turned out to be a scam. She's out more than thirteen hundred dollars, but her and her family are finding ways to have fun without going to the game. We got scammed as what it is, but we're still smiling, said McNamara. We're going to the fan zones and we got tickets to one of the pubs.

SPEAKER_07 29:46

They're smiling because they drank all the beer on the flip.

SPEAKER_09 29:51

Carl's lucky to get there as a host of fans struggled to get into the States after their ESTA applications went from approved to pending or rejected. The ESTA is the system that approved travelers getting into the U.S. and it gives a waiver to bypass a visa. Fans were concerned right up until the flight, checking every day just in case loads of people spent thousands and pounds, thousands of pounds. And you can't get your money back, said McNamara. When you waited 28 years, it's a kick in the teeth, I'll say. Uh we were talking to some guys at the pub last night and they were all nervous too, said Howison. There's been a lot on social media, a lot of people getting knocked back and not getting across and stuff. So it's been a bit of an eye-opener, but here we are, where that's outside, so we're nearly on American soil, said Scotland fan Justin Logmure.

SPEAKER_11 30:42

Man, this one went away from you know, check all the beer to we got scrammed from tickets.

SPEAKER_09 30:48

Yeah. The travelers must be must be completed and truthful. Failure to disclose arrests or convictions constitutes misrepresentation and can lead to ESTA denial, revocation of a permit bar or a perm permanent bar from the United States. The French national team also landed at Logan Airport Wednesday afternoon. Fans packed Boylston Street trying to get autographs and photos of players as they entered the Four Seasons Hotel.

SPEAKER_07 31:28

So the French people are all the wine on the brand.

SPEAKER_09 31:33

And ate all the frogs.

SPEAKER_07 31:41

How raucous do you think that Scottish flight was?

SPEAKER_09 31:45

Oh, I think it was amazing.

SPEAKER_07 31:47

I imagine it was like the Bacchanalia flight from Wolf of Wall Street. Just all fucking go nuts. So I had no song for Leo this week because I unfortunately have an obituary. I should just start doing the obituary separate from the movie updates and then I can actually play my song.

SPEAKER_08 32:05

Movio Bits with Leo.

SPEAKER_07 32:08

Anthony Stewart Head, best known as Giles and Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and for his recurring role role in Ted Lasso, passed away from complications due to pneumonia. He was 72 years old.

SPEAKER_09 32:21

I didn't put the two of them together. I didn't realize he was uh Rupert.

SPEAKER_07 32:25

Yeah, he was the uh ex-husband uh Rebecca's ex-husband. Uh he was also in one of my favorite David Tennant episodes of Doctor Who, uh the one where Sarah Jean returns. And uh he recently, uh as of like within the last 10 years, I want to say, played Frankenfurter on Broadway in uh Rocky R Picture Show. Oh wow, so yeah, he's uh yeah.

SPEAKER_11 32:52

He also early before Buffy was in the what was it, Berlin?

SPEAKER_07 32:57

Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. Man, it's worked uh worked pretty steadily throughout his career. Yeah, uh, and a new godfather film is apparently in the works, tentatively titled Connie. It will retell the story of the original film from the perspective of Connie Corleone, who was played by Kalia Shire in the original. My personal promotional movie, my personal guest for the tagline of this film will be somehow the Don Return, to which Kevin sent me a message uh last night that said Connie Corleone will return in Avengers Doomsday.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

You killed him, you killed him, you called on the bastard.

SPEAKER_09 33:45

I imagine a very merry Tyler Moore opening where you know you hear the you hear the chorus going, you're gonna break legs after all.

SPEAKER_07 33:59

Oh man, I was watching The Godfather yesterday.

SPEAKER_11 34:04

Oh man.

SPEAKER_07 34:05

Uh Mike, any mushroom crafts tonight?

SPEAKER_11 34:07

I do. I have Midas Touch Golden Elixir, is one of the most unusual beers ever brewed by Dogfish Head Brewery. It was inspired by a chemical analysis of residue found in a drinking vessel from the tomb of the legendary King Midas in ancient what is now modern day Turkey. I'm not even going to try what the ancient name is. Uh the brewer profile is uh the style is historical ale, ancient ale, nine percent ABV, ingredients are barley, white, uh muscat grapes, honey, and saffron. It's a deep golden color, uh honey sweetness, grape-like fruitiness, uh floral saffron notes, and a dry finish. Uh sits w somewhere between a beer, a mead, and a white wine. Uh Doghead worked with a micro uh biomolecular archaeologist, Patrick McGovern, to recreate what may have been served at King Minus' funeral feast about 2,700 years ago. It became the first beer in Dogfish has ancient AL series and developed a cult following among craft beer enthusiasts.

SPEAKER_07 35:39

Am I the only one who thought King Midas was miss? I didn't know he was a real person.

SPEAKER_09 35:46

I knew the Midas touch beer was pretty good. I've enjoyed that from time to time.

SPEAKER_07 35:51

I just was a little taken aback by beer inspired by the chemical analysis of residue found in drinking vessels in a 3,000-year-old tomb. Wait. Hey, it's that's part of my beer trivia too, is it continues with that? Excellent. Okay. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back with our main segment. Tonight we're talking about movies that are better when you're drunk. Be right back. All right, back for a little quick break. We are looking at movies tonight that may or may not be better when we're drunk. So we're gonna take a look at some films that we have uh designated as the drinking andor high movies, where there's drinking andor highness in the movies already. Uh, the movies that are so bad they're better when you're drunk. We have some low rankings here for that. Chaos movies, so these are mostly action films. Uh, and we'll talk about whether or not they're better when we're drunk, and then the films of fermentation hall of fame, which are just a few movies that uh, even though they have high ratings in IMDB, may have better ratings when we drink. So we're gonna mention the movies, talk about them a little bit, talk about the IMDB rating. We're gonna decide whether or not that rating is right where it should be, if it should be higher or lower. And if we had a few drinks in us, would that rating get better? So the first one I have on here is Beer Fest, which is from the Broken Lizard comedy troop. The men who brought you super troopers and super troopers two and super troopers three. This is my favorite of the Broken Lizard films. I've seen this numerous times. It's about a international, a secret international beer drinking competition, and the craziness that ensues as a 6.2 on IMDB, which I honestly thought was pretty high. I like the movie a lot, so 6.2 sits right where it should be for me, but I really thought a lot of people would have voted it lower. Um, but the broken lizard guys have a pretty good following, so uh I think it's right where it should be at 6.2. But if I did have a few in me, this is a fucking 11 out of 10. I love this movie. Kev, have you seen Beer Friends before?

SPEAKER_09 38:10

I know I've caught it from time to time, but I don't think I was drunk enough to for it to capture my attention. You know, I'd watch a little bit and then I'd get distracted by something shiny. Um and honestly, I the super troopers uh movies, though I know of the funny bits, I've never I don't think I've ever constituted like consistently watched them through.

SPEAKER_07 38:34

See, I I like the super troopers and I like Beer Fest. I like the Broken Lizard guys, they're pretty funny. They used to be a uh improv group at one point before they got in a movie, so they they've been in comedy for a while. Uh Mike, you might like Beer Fest. You probably wouldn't like it, but you might like it because it takes place. Uh the beer festival competition is in Germany during October Oktoberfest. And they they are trying to beat the German team who are experts at drinking from Das Boot. The scene that always cracks me up is they're they're um they're they're training for the competition, they're having a hard time figuring out ways to to drink the beer quicker. And then they discover the recipe for a a secret family beer recipe that's like the best beer ever created. And they like they brew it, they have this whole scene of them like montage and then brewing it, and then they're trying the beer for the first time, and they all start crying. One guy's like, It's the best beer I ever had. Oh my god, I want to put my dick in it. And the guy next to him goes, I want it to put its dick in me. And then the one guy goes, I want to freeze it in the wintertime and skate on it, and then unfreeze it in the springtime and drink it. It's a goofy ass movie, man, but I love it. And it's a perfect movie to be drunk, uh to be drunk while watching it.

SPEAKER_11 39:58

Apparently. Mike has high standards. I would never even think about it. Yeah, I yeah, I think I have to.

SPEAKER_09 40:06

He likes it, but he appreciates it, appreciates it in its original French form.

SPEAKER_07 40:11

Yes. Um second one on the list. I hope you guys appreciate this one a little bit more. House animal house. Animal House, which came out in 1979. This I actually was surprised was so low. 7.4 on IMDbay. Definitely too low. Granted, it's it's a pretty decent score, 7.4, but I thought it would have been a little higher considering it's like a comedy classic.

SPEAKER_09 40:45

It's the original National Lampoon, isn't it?

SPEAKER_07 40:48

Uh, yes, I believe so. I believe it's the first National Lampoons film. Uh, the movie that made John Belushi go from SNL to like major star. Uh probably the biggest name to come out of that film, John Belushi.

SPEAKER_09 41:03

Uh I wouldn't say that. I'd say Kevin Bacon made a pretty good name for himself.

SPEAKER_07 41:08

Oh yeah, I forgot he was, I forget he was in it.

SPEAKER_09 41:11

That's why this is this is your little back door into eight degrees of Kevin Bacon. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 41:17

So you can you can you can connect John Belushi to Kevin Bacon in one movie. Uh what's some of the some great lines in this? Like uh fat, drunk, and stupid, no way to go through life, son. Thank you, sir. I'll may have another. Um part of this movie is when the one dude sleeps with the little girl and finds out she's like 13. That was Tom Holst. Tom Holst, yeah. But like yeah, overall though, I I love Animal House. I think to me, without being drunk, 7.4 is really low on IMDB.

SPEAKER_09 41:57

Well, you also have a thing for Karen Allen, who I think you know yeah, it was more Donald Sutherland's it was more Dr.

SPEAKER_07 42:05

Sutherland's bare ass in the film, but yeah, Karen Allen's pretty good too. Do you know why Donald Sutherland did the bare ass scene in the film? No, but in like they they had Karen Allen do a bare ass scene in the film, and he did it to help her feel more comfortable. Although I look at it more as just Donald Sutherland wanted to show up his ass. Uh 7.4, I would give this closer to an eight on a regular on a regular road. Drunk. This movie's a 20 out of 10.

SPEAKER_11 42:45

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_07 42:46

How about you, Mike? What would you say?

SPEAKER_11 42:48

Oh, I would definitely go, you know, eight and a half, nine, regular. Definitely. There's no chart high enough of them drunk. I would laugh at everything in that movie.

SPEAKER_07 43:00

I laugh at everything a movie sober.

SPEAKER_08 43:03

We'd like to sit with your women.

SPEAKER_11 43:08

Even the non-funny parts would be freaking hilarious. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 43:12

The whole parade scene at the end. You know what always cracks me up? My favorite thing I think is the funniest joke in the whole film is when they're doing the thing at the end where they tell you what happens to all of them after college, and they get the John Belushi and he's driving away in the car with a woman next to him, and it says former it says future senator and Mrs. Lutowski.

SPEAKER_09 43:35

I think it's great when they do Needlemaier.

SPEAKER_07 43:38

He was killing by his own guys in Vietnam. Uh yeah, yeah, I agree with Mike. Like this is a hard one to charge if we're drunk. Next one we have here. I have a scene for this one. Uh there's so many scenes I could choose from from this film.

unknown 43:58

Uh Kevin.

SPEAKER_07 44:00

And I saw this in the movie theater in Ocean City, Maryland on a very rainy day.

SPEAKER_09 44:05

Yeah. The girls went to go see Eat Prey Love, I think.

SPEAKER_07 44:08

No, they were with us.

SPEAKER_09 44:09

Oh, were they? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 44:11

Yeah, the girls were with us for this one because I remember it was so raucous in there. People were laughing so hard. Like we missed jokes because people were laughing so hard. Yeah. But I chose this scene because low-key, it's I think one of the funniest scenes in the film.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Hey, Phil, look.

SPEAKER_01 44:30

He's jacking his little Lenus. Pull yourself together, man. Not at the table, Carlos.

SPEAKER_07 44:39

That's the part that cracks me up the most. He's like, not at the table, Carlos. And then later on later on, Carlos gets her turn to Kevin's favorite actress. Heather Graham. And we learned that Carlos's real name is Tyler. Did the real Caesar stay here?

SPEAKER_09 45:02

It's not a satchel.

SPEAKER_07 45:04

My beeper worker. It's a satchel. It's not a man purse. I used to be a long word.

SPEAKER_08 45:18

That whole thing with the um Bill Collins in the air tonight. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 45:24

So this is a 7.7 on IMDB, which I actually think is just about right. And I was a little surprised to see that it was a little higher than Animal House. And and I thought, and I was I I like, you know, busted a gut laughing at it, man. I think drunk, this would be over the fucking top. Especially because you'd be in the same condition as the guys in the film. They're in the the demonstration with the kids at the police station. And he points to Bradley Cooper and he starts and and and Zach Albanac starts walking over and he's like, no, not you, fat Jesus. The kid chases him in the face.

SPEAKER_09 46:13

I also think the clever thing that they've done with the with the were there two or three movies? There were three, right? Three. Is the um camera that's found at the end. You know, and going through all the photos that you see in the camera.

SPEAKER_07 46:29

That's uh that's kind of like uh like we didn't take pictures at bachelor parties because of it. Uh 7.7, I think, is just about where it should be. Drunk? This is probably gonna be closer to a nine for me. It's not over this off the scale like Animal Houses, but it is probably a little higher if I'm already had a few in me. Kev or Mike, you have anything to say? I haven't seen it, so I know you haven't seen the next one. This is a Wolf Farrell movie. I haven't seen the next two, so you never seen Up and Smoke. I thought you would have seen Up and Smoke, Man Cheat and Shawn. No, nah, no. Well, let's talk about old school first. This is uh Wolf Farrell, um Luke Wilson, and uh Vince Vaughn. Three friends who are bored with their life decide to go back to college, not just go back to college, start their own fraternity.

SPEAKER_08 47:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 47:31

Uh and the fraternity is made up of a bunch of like guys who are rejects from other places in the college.

SPEAKER_11 47:37

Oh, so they just took the script from Revenge of the Nerds and made them older.

SPEAKER_07 47:40

It's kind of like Animal House meets Revenge of the Nerds a little bit. Um, because they're back fraternity, and and uh it does have some pretty funny moments, uh, like we're going streaking in the quad. Uh where uh Luke Wilson sleeps with uh Alicia Cusper. Alicia Cuthbert finds up that she's in high school. Um it's a seven on IMDB, which I like the movie, but even though I thought that was a little high. This to me was probably like more like a six and a half range. Um, if I were watching the drunk, I think seven or eight is probably right where it would be.

SPEAKER_09 48:19

It had a balance of people I enjoy and then people I don't, you know. I like um Will Farrell, but I'm not the biggest fan of Luke Wilson or Vince Vaughan. I don't like Jeremy Piven, but I do like Alicia Cuthbert.

SPEAKER_07 48:38

I like the scene where Stifler uh shoots Will Farrell with the uh the tranquilizer dart.

SPEAKER_09 48:43

Yeah. Not a fan of Sean Williams Scott or Artie Lang. Wow.

SPEAKER_07 48:49

Yeah, what about Juliet Lewis? Give her a chance at least, man.

SPEAKER_09 48:54

Honestly, it's the actresses that I'm okay with. Ellen Pompey Pompeo, Leia Remini, Harry Reeves. I'm good with all that. Pins one I'm okay with. I guess I just don't like Luke Wilson so much.

SPEAKER_07 49:09

All right. So the last one I have here, the last one I have here for drinking andor high movies is a very high movie, Up and Smoke. This is Cheech and Shung, the 70s. Uh Up and Smoke is their first film together. It's a sort of like a road comedy about two stoners, obviously, because they're Chinchung. Uh and there's a lot of like really funny scenes in the film, but the one that I decided to pick out for this is Cheech is singing a song that he wrote, and Shuang is playing the guitar behind him. And this is the clip that I have. Now that is uh from they were uh a stage act before they got into movies, and uh their comedy act included that song and some other like bits that are in this movie, so that's kind of how like the movie came to be. There's another good one we're in the car together and they get pulled over by the cops, so he decides to eat all the drugs that they have in the car.

SPEAKER_09 50:58

What a lot of people don't know is Cheech Marin is actually Scottish.

SPEAKER_07 51:07

And Tommy Chung is actually from Hong Kong. Uh Smokes has a 6.9 on IMDB, which seems pretty appropriate. Uh, if I were drunk watching this, it would probably be in the eight range for me. Mike has not seen this, which I'm shocked because this is uh an older comedy.

SPEAKER_11 51:25

I thought you might have no, I've seen Born in East LA though.

SPEAKER_07 51:28

I've seen Born in East LA as well. Yeah, it's a little team compared to this film. Uh the next one, I know Mike had not seen this one, but Kevin and I have movies so bad that they can only get better when you're drunk. So these are movies that are really low ranking on INDB, but obviously are much better when you're fucking hammered.

SPEAKER_09 51:55

Being hammered doesn't improve them much, though.

SPEAKER_07 51:57

I mean, it does improve them though. I don't know. I mean, so the first one I have on here is The Room, the Tommy Wisseau cult classic. Uh there's a really good uh uh funny movie called The Disaster Artist, which is uh stars James Franco as Tommy Wisseau, and it's about the making of this film. It's pretty funny. But the room is a movie funded by this weird Eastern European guy. Nobody knows where he got his money from. How he was able to fund this himself. It's supposed to be this dramatic film about a man whose wife is cheating on him. Uh, he has come out later years and said that he knew it was a comedy, which is bullshit. He did not know that this was a comedy. He wanted it to be about vampires, but it wasn't in the budget. And they had bought a green screen for the film, so he made them use the green screen, even though the only thing the green screen was showing was stuff that was already outside.

SPEAKER_08 53:00

Stuff on the roof, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 53:03

And then this is the most famous scene from the film, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 53:06

I did not hit her. It's not true, it's bullshit. I did not hit her. I did not. Oh, hi Mark.

SPEAKER_08 53:16

You're tearing me up, Harley.

SPEAKER_07 53:18

Lisa, you're tearing me up, and he is the grossest looking fucking guy who has multiple sex scenes in this film where an inordinate amount of time is spent on his thrusting ass. Did you actually watch this film?

SPEAKER_09 53:37

I've watched this three times. That's two more times than I watched it.

SPEAKER_07 53:43

So I watched it once out of curiosity. I watched it a second time because I really wanted to see if it was as bad as I thought it was.

SPEAKER_11 53:52

And third time you're like glutton for punishment, huh?

SPEAKER_07 53:54

No, the third time I actually was fucking hammered when I watched it. This movie is one where I actually was drunk off my ass, turned on the TV, saw the room, and was like, fuck it. 3.6 out of 10 on IMDB. That is a rating that comes out of the cult love for this film. There's no other reason for it to have a 3.6. Drunk off my ass. I laughed a lot, so I'd give it probably a 5. That's pretty generous. Yeah, that was pretty generous, a five. Yeah. I don't know if I would be that generous if I watched it again, drunk, because I'm definitely not watching it again. If I ever watch it again, I want it to be maybe the result of like a dementia where I forgot I watched it. I can't watch it again. Next one I have on the list is Congo.

SPEAKER_11 54:52

Amy, Amy, good 5.3 on IMD Bay.

SPEAKER_07 54:58

I want to think five of that 5.3 stars is because of uh Tim Curry.

SPEAKER_09 55:03

Tim Curry's amazing work as a um um what would you call him? An Eastern European He's like kind of the treasure hunter, yeah. But he's also the comic relief. He's also Tim Curry, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 55:23

Um it also starts Julianne Moore. It makes sense. Somehow recovered from this.

SPEAKER_09 55:30

Julian Ernie Hudson in this too. Julian Moore.

SPEAKER_07 55:35

Oh, Laura Lenny? Yeah, it's Laura Lenny, who somehow recovered from this.

SPEAKER_09 55:38

Yeah. Um, I love when they take books from one of my favorite authors, Michael Crichton, and they completely put it into a dumpster and light it on fire after putting uh after taking a dump on it. Um this was a good book, you know. It was a very good book. It didn't have half the nonsense characters that were in it, you know. Um, but it was it was a good book. I I'll say the special effects were semi-decent. I like Stan Winston, but I think it it was tough for him.

SPEAKER_11 56:12

So Kev, just since you're a big Crichton fan. So would you rather watch Congo or Eaters of the Dead? Which would be the 13th warrior.

SPEAKER_07 56:26

So let me let me let me do I'm gonna bring up three films here that are all based on Crichton material that are all worse than the books were because the books were awesome. Congo Congo is a good book, yeah. Yep, that was worse than a garbage fire.

SPEAKER_09 56:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 56:46

And Eaters of the Dead, which I don't think was that bad a film, but was uh or like 13th Warrior is what the film was called. Yeah, the book Eaters of the Dead was incredible. It didn't do the book justice, is what we're gonna do. It didn't do the book justice, but I don't think it was the worst of the three, it's probably the best of the three. Sure. But yeah, I don't it definitely didn't do the book justice because the book was written as as a series of letters, it wasn't like a narrative, right? Um, but yeah, I mean and it also had a cool name, Eaters of the Dead. I would have gone to see that in the theater. Yeah. Back to Congo, 5.3 on IMDB, kind of like where it should be. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I mean it's better, it's it's a better film than the room, so I'm not too upset by the 5.6. If I were drunk, I'd give it a 5.4. Oh wow, even drunk, I don't think it's that great a movie. Anyone have anything else to say? It's probably the only time we've ever talked about Congo on this show.

SPEAKER_11 57:49

I'll be telling I'll be like, you know, being drunk, I would probably give a little higher than a 5.4 just because Amy, Amy, yeah, good gorilla.

SPEAKER_02 57:59

I'd be like, fucking Amy. Wasn't gorilla played by like somebody in a suit?

SPEAKER_07 58:05

Wasn't like somebody in like a gorilla suit, or was it an actual like gorilla?

SPEAKER_09 58:09

No, no, it was uh somebody in a gorilla suit. And the suit worked okay, it kinda looked like he reused it in Hollow Man with Kevin Bacon.

SPEAKER_07 58:21

Uh 1989's Roadhouse, not the recent one with Jake Gyllenhaal. This is the uh cult 80s classic with Patrick Swayze.

SPEAKER_11 58:32

I actually think that's kind of a low rating for them.

SPEAKER_07 58:35

Pain don't hurt.

SPEAKER_09 58:37

Pain don't hurt.

SPEAKER_07 58:38

So I got a clip for this one. Let me go, let me play the clip for you real quick.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Here's your burger, sir. Thank you. Sir, I need another $1.25.

SPEAKER_07 58:48

Is that right? Keep the change. Roadhouse. I have to throw Family Guy in her every now and then. Here's another Family Guy clip where him and Dr. House uh are working on a patient together and he's like, House. Roadhouse. That's an ongoing joke. Uh you think 6.7's too low for Roadhouse, Mike? I I think it should be at least a 6.8. I think it should get at least a 6.9 for the throat rip at the end of the film. Or they sex up against a rock wall.

SPEAKER_11 59:36

Drunk?

unknown 59:38

Oh.

SPEAKER_07 59:38

It's got at least a seven and a half.

SPEAKER_11 59:41

Come on, drunk. Drunk will be trying to do those fucking kicks and shit.

SPEAKER_07 59:46

You walk around the house going pain don't hurt, pain don't hurt, and wake up the next day going, pain really fucking hurts.

SPEAKER_09 59:53

Drunk, you start turning on the uh reboot with Jake Gillen.

SPEAKER_07 59:58

I didn't look that one up to see what the IMDb is on it, but I'm curious. Let's see. Roadhouse. 2024 Roadhouse with Jake Gillenhall has a 6.2. Wow. A lot of that has to do with the acting skills of Connor McGregor. Um Mortal Kombat 1995, not the recent one, which is actually pretty good. I'm looking, I want to see Mortal Kombat 2. I gotta like try to check that one out at some point. Uh, but the original Mortal Kombat 1995 has a 5.9 on IMDB. I kind of think that's right. That's probably right about where it should be. I think it's where it should be because I was I was disappointed, like everybody else, that it wasn't rated R. Um and didn't really have the fatalities that it should have had. And it is much better than the second film, Annihilation, which has a 3.6 on IMDb. Yeah, now it does have one of the best line readings in film history.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:06

There can be only one. Oh, sorry. Same actor, wrong line.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:10

It's the actress, it's the actress playing katana, sees Cindel, who's her mother in the game, and she goes, Mother, you're alive. And then Cindell goes, Yes, and now you will die. Uh Mortal Kombat 1995, 5.9 on IMDB. I think that's right about where it should be. I think if I was drunk watching this, I'd probably give it a 6.1. Yeah, probably. I don't think it gets that many points. The graphics can't get any better no matter how I do uh um I screw like Christopher Lambert as Raiden. If he's better at anything than playing uh uh you know a Scottish man from Belgium, it's playing a Japanese man from Belgium. And the last one is an addition that uh Kevin and Mike said we needed to have on this list. Toys with Robin Williams.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:12

Because I actually watched this the first time drunk. Thought it was freaking funny. I watched the sober one. What the fuck did I just watch?

SPEAKER_07 1:02:20

So it's if for anybody who's not familiar with toys, the movie where Robin Williams is the uh CEO of a toy factory, but he's kind of a big kid himself, and his sister is played by June Cusack, and she's a robot, and his brother is played by LL Cool J because, of course. And the villain in the film is uh Michael Gambon, who would go on to play uh Dumbledore.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:48

You know, when you go from Toys to Um The Good Shepherd, it really shows the growth you have as an actor.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:57

So about Mike Gambon. Yeah. So I gotta I'm looking at Robin Williams because I want to see where Toys falls in his career.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:06

Dude, you could do an entire binge watch of Robin Williams' You Need to Be Drunk movies to watch. Between Popeye, oh god, Toys, Toys, it's like Adams made late.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:21

And I love Bicentennial man, but I know you do. I'm not a big fan of that. So let's see here. So Toys. Where the hell did this movie come out? Oh, here we go. He had just done ready for this. Hook. So he had just come off the Fisher King in '91, which you got an Oscar nom for. He did Hook, wasn't a big hit, but still pretty famous, pretty you know, solid film. Fern Gully, which is I love that movie. Aladdin in 1992, and then his follow-up to Aladdin is Toys. Luckily, his follow-up to that is Mrs. Downfire. And then uh a few years later, he would go on to win the Oscar for Goodwill hunting, so it kind of worked out for me afterwards. But yeah, Toys is a weird one in the middle of all that.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:09

Uh, that was my god.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:12

So, Mike, I'd watch this sober the first time, and then said to myself, I should probably need to be drunk when I watch this. But I was a kid and I was not old enough to drink yet, so I had to wait a few years before I was able to imbibe before watching this film.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:26

Yeah, you were right, because I was 19. Mike was under drinking. No, it wasn't because I was in Germany when I watched it.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:37

I was legal, I was legal.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:41

So it has a 5.1 on IMDB, which I think is high. I think it's a little high. I think this is like a 4.5, maybe being a little generous.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:51

Yeah, but being drunk, I'd give it a solid eight.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:55

Yeah, no, I won't know if I was like high. Maybe I give it like a six and a half. Like I might give it like another point or so.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:01

I laugh so hard. I thought it was so great. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:06

I haven't watched this in a really, really long time, but I'm debating whether or not I should pop a couple gummies and then watch it.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:15

You know, now I'm looking at IMDB, I didn't realize Donald O'Connor was the father. How about that?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:21

Yeah, it's it's a weird cast, it's a really weird cast. All right, next is the chaos movies. These are all action films. Oddly enough, three of the films on this list are Nick Cage.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:33

We have Connor. I mean, are we seeing correlation or causation?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:43

I saw an interview he did on a show when he was younger. He came out screaming, hollering, and doing backflips and somersaults. I don't know what he was promoting. It was early in his career, he was very young, and he's just like the the host in the back is waiting. To start the interview, and Nick Cage is like, I can't hear you because I just snowed it courcane through my ears. You know, it was like it was so fucking weird. Conair, 6.9. I think it's kind of high.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:15

I actually like the movie. I think it's it's a fun watch because it's like so over the top. I love John Malkovich in it, and I really like Steve Buscemi in it. I think Nick Cage is the weakest part of the film. Um, I think the best part of Nick Cage in that film is his hair. In the 90s, Nick Cage did a lot of hair acting. Yes. It's like every role had a specific hair do. Uh Connery gets a 6.9 on IMDB. I think that's a little high. Maybe 6.3, 6.4. Uh drunk? This movie is a fucking 12. I don't know how drunk Kevin has to be to enjoy Nick Cage performances, but I should be incapacitated if that's the case. Kevin should wake up the next day and go, Did I watch a Nick Cage movie last night?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:12

Did I watch Nick Cage? Oh, I gotta wash my eyes.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:16

Mike, do you agree with me on my assessment of this film?

SPEAKER_11 1:07:19

I oh yeah, I think it's a little high there. I think I I don't give it a 12. Um I would give it, you know, maybe a nine.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:28

See, I I appreciate Nick Cage's hair acting more than Kevin does. That's what that's what it is.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:34

I appreciate you just say I appreciate Nick Cage more than Kevin does, and that would be just next one on the list is Point Break.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:43

We're of course talking about the original one with Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze, not the aesthetic remake that came out like 10 years ago. Uh I have a little clip for this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:54

I am an FBI agent. I know, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:01

He says I am an FBI agent, like he's getting an eye test. FBI. No one ever said he was a great actor. It's it's funny because like early in his career, there were a couple movies where I would have said that he did pretty good. So like he was good in parenthood, he was good in in um my own private Idaho.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:28

Uh he was great in film Ted because he was he was playing, he was playing to play himself, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:34

And uh but then you get point break, and so then like in the late in the mid-90s, he's doing action films. He's got point break, you got speed, which the they are fun films and good films, but not really because of him.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:46

The lake house.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:47

The lake, even this fucking lakehouse movie, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:51

He got the matrix, which you know, I don't think it all is all about him either.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:56

Well, I mean, that's about the visuals and the fighting and the uh Johnny mnemonic. Johnny mnemonic. That's a cult classic. I like Constantine. I like Constantine. I kind of enjoy Constantine. Now, point break it's got a 7.3 on INDB, which I really shocked it was that high. I I mean I'm not really I thought that's a little low for that movie. You thought it was a little low? I thought 7.3 is pretty good. I'd say 7.5. I'm not saying I would give it less than a 7.3, I'm just saying I thought it would have been like less than a 7.3. People love that movie.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:34

People love I heard in the remake, instead of using uh Nixon mask or not Nixon mask, uh Reagan mask, they use Obama mask.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:47

It was all presidents in the in the original, it wasn't just Nixon.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:51

They were the presidents. Uh the what are they? They had like a name, they called them the dead presidents, yeah. Yeah, who uh who directed this film? Can you name this would be James Cameron's wife? Spielberg? No, Catherine Bigelow, who used to be married to James Cameron, and then uh beat him for the Oscar for Best Picture for the Hurt Locker. And he divorced her for it. He divorced her way before that. Uh 7.3, pretty good. I think drunk, I'd probably be like around the same range. Yeah, I don't know. Not exactly a hysterical movie when you're drunk. Face off. Face off is a hysterical fucking movie, sober. Yeah, I'm surprised I'm surprised that's a 7.3. Oh, people love this. You're talking about people loving point break. Face off has a following. This movie is about as bad shit as bad shit can get. The premise. Yeah, well, I want to take his face off.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:00

And they switch faces.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:03

The best part is the best part is is is Nick Cage was coming right off of I want to say he was coming right off of Con Air and going right to the the lot to start filming face off and had no time to prepare or really read the script. He was just kind of like going from one film to the next. And so he and Travolta really didn't work out how they were gonna act as each other, and it didn't matter because both of them overact so bad in this film that they still are the same person. It's like bad shit. This fucking movie, yeah. Ain't it cool? So you want a movie that has a car chase in it? Face off has it. You want a movie with a boat chase in it? Oh, you want a movie with a plane chase in it? Faceoff has it. This movie has it all. Oh man, 7.309 db. Again, it's a cult classic rating. That's that's why it's so high. Drunk man. If I gave Connor a 12 out of 10 being drunk, this movie's like a 15. This is a movie's a fucking good time when you're hammered. Anybody uh got anything else they want to say about that, or should I move on? I would probably move on. Fear Lulling in Las Vegas, which is a movie about drugs and alcohol. Yep. Starring Johnny Depp and uh our favorite director, Benicio Del Toro. I think that's pretty uh good. I don't think it would matter more if I was drunk or not. This movie is pretty crazy to begin with. Uh train spotting, 8.1. That deserves an 8.1. Train spotting is an amazing movie, very well acted. I don't know if being drunk would affect it that much, considering it's a movie got heroin use. So I'm gonna say that stays where it was where it is, and then Ghost Rider, which we added earlier, another Nick Cage classic, 5.3 on INDB. I think that's pretty high.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:19

I agree.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:21

I mean, Spirit of Vengeance has a 3.6 the sequel, I think it should be about a 4.6. Only slightly better. Yeah, the only thing that redeems this movie is fucking Sam Elliott.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:33

This movie is Sam Elliott, you know, redeemed on this, you know, tonight.

SPEAKER_07 1:13:38

When Sam Elliott turns into his Ghost Rider with the fucking ghost rider horse, I'm like, that's badass shit. Too bad the rest of the movie happened. I would have rather had a movie of Sam Elliott as the original Ghost Rider in the Wild West. 5.309 DBay, a little high.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:59

Yep.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:00

This is the only movie I think on the list where if I was drunk, I'd give it a lower rating. All right, the films of fermentation hall of fame. Let's blow through these kind of quickly here. Big Lebowski, 8.1. Yay or nay?

SPEAKER_09 1:14:20

Yay. Yay. Yeah. Drunk? Yep. Drunk? Pen. The whole uh uh Stanley Tucci. Stanley Tucci, my god. Um who am I thinking of? Bowling Jesus.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:34

Jesus, you're talking of uh um shit, John Tatura.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:39

John Tatura. Nobody fucks with the Jesus, nobody fucks with the Jesus.

SPEAKER_07 1:14:45

What's the thing he says? Uh uh John Goodman says, that's what you get when you fuck a stranger in the ass. That's a line he says in the movie goes, This is what happens when you try to fuck a stranger in the ass. And they changed it on TV in the version to like yeah, it's something like that's what you get. Oh my god, I can't remember what it was. It's so stupid. I'll see if I can find it out, figure it out. Well, we talk about Monty Python in the holy grail. I think 8.1 is low.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:16

Yeah, I do too.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:18

Yeah, considering it's like a classic comedy, man. We did a whole episode on Monty Python.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:23

I don't know if I'd want to be drunk watching this because I feel like I'd miss too much from silly silliness, you know?

SPEAKER_07 1:15:30

Oh, here it is. Big big Lebowski. The original line is that's what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass. On TV, it was replaced with this is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps. Whatever. But back to Monty Python. Yeah, I mean it's a nine. It's a nine. If I was drunk, I think it would be worse because I think I would not I think I I I enjoy this movie so much that I I don't care if I'm drunk or not.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:04

I think at certain parts I would laugh even more. And then would make uh I would probably leave it as a non drunk because I would laugh so hard at the point that I thought it was funny that I missed whatever I missed, I laughed hard enough to cover it.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:17

I also kind of think like it's if you're already giving it a nine sober, it really can't go that much higher when you're drunk. So uh airplane 7.7 on IMDB. I think that's kind of low, but I also think it's because more modern audiences probably don't appreciate airplanes.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:36

The youths don't get it. They don't get um they don't get it, they don't get it, they don't get parodies.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:42

I talk, I talk, I talk dry. How do you like your coffee? I like my coffee like I like my men, strong and black.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:51

He never has for a second cup at home. Looks like I picked the wrong thing. Shirley you're not serious and glue.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:59

Call me Shirley. Or like the blow-up uh autopilot smoking a cigarette after getting blown up. Airplanes a 7.709 dB. I think that's low. Uh drunk, this is definitely a 10. Definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:14

Buddy couldn't what's that are you gonna say? Buddy couldn't hack it. No, buddy was great. I speak giant.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:27

Sean of the Dead, 7.8. Uh probably my favorite zombie film of all time, and it's a comedy. Uh, I think it's low. I think it's at least an eight. Yes. Uh Drunk, definitely a nine, maybe a ten. Tremors, the Kevin Bacon classic. Why do I think that's high? I don't think I love Tremors. You kidding, man? 7.2, that's fucking low. This movie's awesome. It's a send up of B films of the 50s. It's awesome. If you watch it like a B film from the 50s, 7.2 is pretty good. Yeah, but it was meant to be. No, you watch it drunk.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:13

And it's like 7.2.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:16

And it's an eight. Army of Darkness 7.4. Well I thought that was I love Army of Darkness. I like Sam Raimi. I like the Evil Dead series, but I actually thought that was kind of high considering. Um, to me, the 7.4 would probably be where it was if I was drunk while watching it. All right, this is a weird one. So again, I didn't this last part of the list I didn't really make up myself. I did this through like a researching other sites. Galaxy Quest.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:48

Galaxy. Oh, I love Galaxy Quest.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:50

I think Galaxy Quest is one of the best Star Trek films ever made. And 7.4 is really low. Right where it needs to be. You think it's right where it needs to be, 7.4?

unknown 1:19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:03

Oh, I love Galaxy Quest. I think Galaxy Quest is like a 7.8.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:08

I think the 7.4 is only because of Alan Rickman.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:14

Alan Rickman's amazing in it.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:15

Yeah. If Alan Rickman wasn't in the movie, that would be a much slower movie.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:19

I don't think it's a movie though that is affected by drunkenness. I think it kind of stays where it's at either way.

unknown 1:19:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:26

At least in my opinion. Uh Super Troopers. I think I'm the only person here who's watched the movie multiple times from front to end. Uh like Beer Fest. I like the Broken Lizard guys. I like this movie, and I like it sober and drunk. And the last one I have here is the Rocky Horror Picture Show, which I of course have a scene from.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:49

Come up to the lab and see what's on the lab. I see you with an display. It's not really to play. But not the Tim Curry.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:23

Was that him singing?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:25

Yes. I didn't know. That is him singing, man. That is his voice. I think he originally did the stage production before he did the movie. Hmm. He did, yeah. I think he was in the stage production. I I he's amazing in it. I like that there's that old meme, like how you know how old you are by which Tim Curry movie you identify first. For me, it's Clue. That's my favorite Tim Curry movie, but then it's Rocky Horror and The Worse Witch. Well that's in the worst switch. He's the uh he's the vampire warlock.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:02

Yeah, what not the three musketeers?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:05

He's pretty good three musketeers, too. He's great in legend as the devil. Yes.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:12

He's great as Pennywise and it. I think uh 7.4 is a little low for me because I love the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:21

I think it's about right because it's very, very niche. Like, not everybody loves Rocky Horror. The audience really has to be like specifically like I like Rocky Horror, so I think 7.4 is probably pretty good for it. But like I agree, like some people like you would probably think it's higher because like you have a different you know appreciation for it.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:42

Because I've seen it in the theater with the groups that would go crazy with.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:46

I used to go to the uh participation shows with Katie back when we were dating. Yeah. Um, drunk. At least an 11. Turn it up to 11 this fucking movie. Oh man, we should do like a we gotta do an episode on the career Tim Curry at some point. I think that'd be such a really fun episode to do. I heard he's coming, uh he's gonna be doing a uh another a movie or a TV show or something soon, even though he's like he's in a wheelchair.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:16

He's incapacitated.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:17

He has um he has very limited mobility, very limited mobility, but he's going to be performing in something coming out soon. I I read somewhere. Can't remember what it was, but he is he is gonna be doing some acting again soon. Uh Mike, you have a beer trivia for us tonight?

SPEAKER_11 1:22:34

Probably continue for my uh my must try beer. The Midas Touched Beer from Dogfish had uh beer was inspired by chemical analysis of drinking drinking vassals found in the tomb to believed to belong to the legendary King Midas. It combined ingredients associated with ancient beverages, including honey, saffron, and grapes.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:01

I might be doing some research, research on who King Midas might have been.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:10

Send him a quote.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:12

The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind Humphrey Bogart.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:17

I thought that was apropos for our show. Yeah. Uh Kev, I guess uh the Sam Adams were pretty good, right? Yeah, they were fine. They were good. Like your whiskey was good, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:37

Um, I killed the rest of my strawberry moonshine and most of my black of my uh mountain berry moonshine, and really, really have to go to the bathroom right now. So, like, I I'm pretty sure I'm feeling pretty good.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:51

In fact, I think I'm in danger.

SPEAKER_07 1:23:55

And I still gotta get up and go to school tomorrow. Thank you for joining us tonight for episode 242, movies that are better when we're drunk. We hope you enjoyed listening to the episode tonight as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Remember, you can email us at filmsofermentation at gmail.com. Go to lintree.com slash films of fermentation to find all of our social media podcast links. Watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku, you can watch us on YouTube or on Rumble. You can go to Patreon to support patreon.com slash films of fermentation, or you can even text us at 904-867-4466. Don't forget to stop by the crossroads between Pickle and Ferment next time around for episode 243. Next week, we are gonna do a draft episode. We haven't done a draft episode in a while, and we decided that this time around we're gonna be drafting sports movies. So, drafting baseball, football, hockey, whatever it might be. We may have a guest next week. We may not, I'm not sure. Might just be the three of us. But either way, I'm Leo, I'm Kevin, I'm Mike. Cheers, everybody.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:59

Cheers. Cheers.