The Great Sports Movie Draft with guest, Matt Brooks

This week on Films and Fermentation, we're trading movie reviews for a draft board as we assemble the ultimate roster of sports movies. From underdog boxers and miracle hockey teams to baseball dreams and football legends, no athlete, coach, or inspirational locker room speech is safe from selection. Will strategy prevail, or will someone panic and spend a first-round pick on a movie they haven't actually watched since cable television was king? Expect fierce competition, questionable scouting reports, and enough sports clichés to fill an entire Hall of Fame wing. So grab your favorite beverage and join us for The Great Sports Movie Draft, where the only thing more competitive than the movies is the people arguing about them.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

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SPEAKER_08 1:57

Tonight, we are doing the great sports movie draft. We uh originally were gonna do a bracket, but we were kind of arguing over what should be included in the bracket, and we didn't think we had time to do a field of 64 in one episode. So uh we we we changed it to a draft episode instead. So we're gonna be drafting our favorite sports movie tonight. And we have our friend, what's that, Kev? Pun intended, unintended, and uh we have our friend Matt Brooks back tonight joining us to help add a little competition to the draft so that we can you know have an extra person and try to fuck each other over because that's that's what makes it fun. Again, we are films of fermentation, a movie and alcohol podcast, number one beer podcast on good pods, number one alcohol podcast on good pods. We are still knocking down the charts in Madagascar, guys. We're still in the top 10.

SPEAKER_07 2:45

I'm rooting for you in FIFA, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:50

Uh, I have some numbers here. I wanted to read to you guys because I just thought it was cool to go over this. So we're closing in on near 36,000 total downloads. Uh, so I thought let's take a look at our territory downloads here. We're of course the most downloads we get come from the United States all the time, 78% of our downloads. But the rest of our downloads are split between these countries in our top 10: the United Kingdom, Singapore, Germany, Netherlands, Vietnam, Ireland, Canada, Sweden, and India all are in the top 10 of downloads for this show. Wow. And like the people in Madagascar, I think some of them are doing it just to learn English. But who knows? Anyway, I'm Leo. I'm Kevin.

SPEAKER_09 3:33

I'm Mike. I'm Matt.

SPEAKER_08 3:35

And that's Matt. We are four friends tonight who like to talk shit about movies. We're getting shit-faced. This week on Films and Fermentation, we're trading movie reviews for a draft board as we assemble the ultimate roster sports movies. From underdog boxers and miracle hockey teams to baseball dreams and football legends. No athlete coach or inspirational locker room speech is safe from selection. Will strategy prefail prevail, or will someone panic and spend a first-round pick on a movie that they haven't actually watched since cable television was king? Expect fierce competition, questionable scouting reports, and enough sports cliches to fill an entire Hall of Fame wing. So grab your favorite beverage and join us for the great sports movie that draft, where the only thing more competitive than the movies is the people arguing about them. Don't forget to drop us an email at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all our social media podcast links. Watch us on the Pod Nation Media Network on Roku on Rumble or on YouTube. We are an independent podcast, which means we are listeners supported. So please consider joining our Patreon for as little as a dollar a month or receive members-only content. Buy our merchandise at teespring.com or text us at 904-867-4466. We did get an email uh yesterday, I believe, on this week's episode that we released, which was movies that are better when you're drunk. Uh, we got an email from sad boy again who said, uh, we missed a perfect movie to watch when you're drunk. And the movie he said uh we should have had on our list was the Paul Verhoeven classic Showgirls. Yeah, there's not enough alcohol in the world to make that movie good. I I think it's better totally sober. Really enjoy the acrobatic sex scene with uh Kyle McLaughlin and Jesse from uh Stay by the Bell.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

What if any uh teachers like who teach a film class try to show that in high school?

SPEAKER_07 5:25

Yeah, no, I have not.

SPEAKER_08 5:33

Yeah, that's that was for the finals.

SPEAKER_07 5:37

What camera was the director using in this particular scene?

SPEAKER_08 5:42

Notice the close-up of the V of the vagina. Kids, this is back in the 70s when we used to have a thing called Bush. Oh, right. I guess I'll do one of you guys go first while I still try to get my smoker thing working.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

Well, I'm uh I'm drinking a uh a cut water vodka transfusion, which I thought would be appropriate since that's the uh standard drink you have on a golf course. The vodka transfusion.

SPEAKER_08 6:16

Kev, is that true? You're a golfer.

SPEAKER_07 6:19

Uh I go for the Arnold Palmers, but this might once, you know.

SPEAKER_09 6:25

So I am drinking from silver hand meatery sweet escapes made with pineapple, coconut, and honey. It is 13% alcohol by volume. Yeah, what do you got on?

SPEAKER_07 6:40

I am working my way through the same summer seasonal pack. So tonight I'm drinking the crisp and smooth American lager, which is 4.2% alcohol by volume. And following that, I'll be enjoying a summer ale, which is a citrus wheat ale, which is 5.3% alcohol by volume.

SPEAKER_08 7:01

So I actually just picked up a case of uh Sam Adams summer ale today. That's not what I'm drinking tonight. I decided to try to do a little something themed. So we're doing sports movies, so I'm drinking my uh bird gang bourbon whiskey. Some uh eagles bourbon. Uh this is 86 proof. I am trying. I'm trying to get uh the smoker thing going so I can smoke my bourbon, but uh I don't have the right lighter and it's not really working. So I think I'm just gonna be drinking my bourbon straight tonight. Boo hoo. So no flavor, huh? No flavor. No flavor, just bourbon.

SPEAKER_02 7:44

All right.

SPEAKER_08 7:45

Uh I am distilling my own uh uh whiskey right now, too. Uh I don't know which one of you guys got us this, but it's a whiskey distilling kit where you like you put flavor infusions into the whiskey. One of you guys got it for us. I don't know which one. Uh, but I'm making my own now. It's going to be uh coffee and cocoa. Nice. That should be good. It's going to take about a month. So I'm hoping it'll be ready by the time we uh go away because we take it down with us. Mocha whiskey. Yeah. All right, let's uh let's hear a little music.

SPEAKER_02 8:31

This week in film history with Mike.

SPEAKER_09 8:37

So a lot happened this week in film history, and not all of it good. So here we go. 1960, psycho the psych psychology psychological horror film directed by Alfred Hitchcock and starring Janet Lee, Anthony Anthony Perkins, and Vera Mills opens in New York City. Yes. Also Hitchcock's best movies. Also in 1960, The Apartment, directed by Billy Wil Wilder, starring Jack Lemmon and Shirley McLean, premieres in New York, best uh Academy Award, best picture, best director, and best screen to play, 1961.

SPEAKER_08 9:14

You jumped off on my psycho fact. I had a psycho fact, I was gonna say before you jump to the second one. Psycho is the first movie to show a flushing toilet on screen.

SPEAKER_03 9:23

Oh, I think I heard that, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 9:26

That was that that uh that uh Hitchcock always pushing boundaries. Next one like this one.

SPEAKER_09 9:34

1987, the dirty dozen, based on E. M. Nathansen's novel, directed by Robert Aldrich and stuffing. Lee Marvin, Ernest Bergnine, and Charles Bronson is released in the US.

SPEAKER_08 9:47

The movie my dad and I watch the morning of my wedding. We're watching it while having coffee and breakfast in the morning. I love the dirty cousin.

SPEAKER_09 9:59

Uh next one 1969, the Wild Bunch, directed by Samopa. Peckin Paw. Okay. And starring William Holden and Ernest Borgnine is released.

SPEAKER_08 10:13

I would thought you would have known Sam Peckin Paul because you're uh uh uh you know yeah, just an old west guy.

SPEAKER_09 10:20

Doesn't mean I know how to say words, you know. Come on.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

That that that movie has one of the best intros, like of any western, like that like the first 15 minutes, really, really, really good. Like very like great tension.

SPEAKER_08 10:33

Yeah, it's like a open opens with a shootout, right?

SPEAKER_03 10:36

Yeah, and it just the way they get to the shootouts, really cool, like the way it's set up.

SPEAKER_08 10:41

Been a while since I watched it. It was one of the films I watched in like my college film theory, so it's like been a while since I've seen it.

SPEAKER_09 10:47

Well, things got out of order here somehow.

SPEAKER_08 10:49

Okay, sorry, just keep going.

SPEAKER_09 10:51

I'm gonna fix it. Uh 1974, Chinatown, directed by Roman Polanski, starring Jack Nicholson, and Faye Dunaway is released.

SPEAKER_08 11:01

Forget about it, Jack. It's Chinatown.

SPEAKER_07 11:03

It's Chinatown. What was the sequel to that called?

SPEAKER_08 11:07

Two uh the two jeeks. Two Jiges. I remember going to the movies with my dad. I don't remember what we were going to see, but I remember the two jakes was in the theater at the time. And I remember hearing two of the the workers at the theater going, Man, there is nobody in that theater. It was not a very popular sequel.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

What was that? Like late 80s, early 90s, 90s, probably, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 11:35

Yeah. Uh next one. Wherever you got there, Mike. I don't know where you're at right now. I know.

SPEAKER_07 11:41

75.

SPEAKER_09 11:42

75. Film Jaws, based on the book by Peter Benchley, written by Steven Spielberg and starring Roy Schneider is released.

SPEAKER_07 11:55

You know, the original uh sea creature was supposed to be a puffer fish. But a very big puffer fish.

SPEAKER_08 12:02

Big puffer fish. Imagine the film was called puffer.

SPEAKER_07 12:14

You deer balloon being me, me.

SPEAKER_09 12:17

You know, I still think I'd rather watch that than that. Shark to push we watched uh Sharktopus was awesome.

SPEAKER_06 12:24

That was bad. That was so bad.

SPEAKER_08 12:27

Uh we did a whole 50th anniversary episode of Jaws last summer, so you should check out our episode from I think it was like last July or August that we did that.

SPEAKER_09 12:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 12:36

Uh so now you're back to the next one, right, Mike?

SPEAKER_09 12:39

Yeah, 1978 film Greece Opens, starring John Travolta and Olivia Newton John, based on the 1971 Broadway musical.

SPEAKER_08 12:50

Starring a bunch of 40-year-olds playing play school this week. I remember looking at Stocker Channing looked older than my mom when I first time I saw that movie. Wasn't that the senior? Yeah, because what's pretty much well when you you wait six years between seasons, yeah. Uh Greece was on Pluto TV this morning.

SPEAKER_09 13:23

Uh next one. 1980 musical comedy film, The Blues Brothers, starring Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi, and directed by John Landis, premieres in Chicago, Illinois.

SPEAKER_08 13:36

So my favorite SNL skip turn movie of all time. Uh oh, I was just talking to somebody about this the other day. Followed closely by Superstar. And uh Stuart Smiley saves the universe.

SPEAKER_03 13:52

I like to see when they're playing in the um the cut like the uh country bar. Sorry, yeah. We got both kinds of music, country and western.

SPEAKER_08 14:01

Rolling, rolling, rolling. Uh I was actually just talking about the TV show in the next uh fact of somebody the other day.

SPEAKER_09 14:10

1983, Black Adder, the TV comedy premiere starring Rowan Atkinson and Tony Ro Robinson, and written by Richard Curtis and Rowan Atkinson on BBC One.

SPEAKER_08 14:24

Yeah, I have a friend at school who uh liked BC comedies and were always like talking about different ones, and she just watched Black Adder recently, and I think it's one of the one of the better uh BBC comedies in the last like nine years.

SPEAKER_03 14:37

It's good. Like I actually I started I was watching that as a kid. Like I love that I love British comedy, so that's great.

SPEAKER_07 14:43

Matt, my brother, uh always liked watching uh Black Adder and uh Red Dwarf.

SPEAKER_03 14:48

Yeah, it's my favorite. It's the same like era, right?

SPEAKER_08 14:52

Red Dwarf, Black Adder, IT crowd, Monty Populy Towers. Those all they're all fucking great.

SPEAKER_09 14:59

Uh next one, like now we start in the Kevin's uh area. 1992, Batman Returns, starring Michael Keaton as Batman, Danny Devito as the penguin, and Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman is released. I'm gonna teach her my French flipper drink.

SPEAKER_07 15:15

Excellent sequel.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

That's one of the darkest, like we're gonna say.

SPEAKER_07 15:19

Yeah, I was just gonna say it was an excellent sequel, and it scared parents because you know it's it's too dark for Batman and the um Batman is dark. Uh yeah, exactly. Happy Meals for that and the studio and the studios were having trouble selling the toys. So, director, yeah, different director who could sell the toys, Joel Schumacher. Hey man, Batnipples, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 15:44

Not to mention uh Batman Returns also had Michelle Pfeiffer in Leather. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Still an iconic scene that I can play in my head.

SPEAKER_09 15:56

Uh speaking of Batnipples, so we're continuing with the Kevin's uh favorite movies. 1995, Batman Forever uh opens at a record 52.8 million weekends, starring Val Kimler, Chris O'Donnell, Tommy Lee Jones, and Nicole Kidman.

SPEAKER_07 16:14

That can burn in hell.

SPEAKER_08 16:18

Not to mention Debbie Mazar and uh Drew Barrymore as salt and pepper.

SPEAKER_07 16:23

Yeah. Jim Carrey is uh I was I was like peak Jim Carrey, too.

SPEAKER_08 16:29

Uh-huh. Yeah, this was right after it was peak because this was right after he had in one year he had uh uh ace ventura, dumb and dumber in the mask all in the same year. Yeah, and so this was like two years after that. So he was like hot, he was the hot commodity. Uh there's a behind the scenes thing where they were asking him about working with Tommy Lee Jones, and Tommy Lee Jones told him not to talk to him because he just he just doesn't care about his he doesn't like I forgot what he said. It was something like I'm tired of your yeah, your buffoonery. I'm tired of your buffoonery.

SPEAKER_09 17:04

So just kind of kind of like how I think about him.

SPEAKER_08 17:06

Yeah, tell Mike feels about all 90s comedy stars: Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey, Will Farrell.

SPEAKER_09 17:15

Well, they have one stick and one stick only.

SPEAKER_08 17:17

And if you can't just means that just means Mike's not taking blades of glory tonight in his draft.

SPEAKER_09 17:23

The only way you can make people laugh is act stupid.

SPEAKER_08 17:26

Well then you can't know it's worked for us so far. We have 242 episodes in.

SPEAKER_09 17:31

Yeah, the difference is we're not acting. We are stupid, yes. Uh next one 2001, the Fast and Furious film directed by Rob Cohen and starring Paul Walker, Vin Diesel, and Michelle Rodriguez premieres.

SPEAKER_08 17:48

I always like Matt, I always make a joke about the arc of the Fast and Furious films. Um, the first Fast and Furious film involved stolen DVD players, yeah. Uh being sold off the back of a truck and Paul Walker trying to find the ring selling them. And then in the last film, they drove a fucking car in space. What are they gonna do for the next one? Uh I guess they drive one to the center of the earth, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 18:17

Uh next one. Here you go, Kev. 2005 Batman Begins, directed by Christopher Nolan and starring Christian Bale, Michael Cain, and Katie Holmes goes on wide release.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

Killian Murphy and um yeah, no, that's sort of like a gritty prequel uh like craze that started after that. Like every superbower added like a gritty backstory.

SPEAKER_08 18:48

I also really enjoyed um Liam Neeson as Raz Oul.

SPEAKER_07 18:52

Yeah, yeah. I like that it was treated realistically, I mean, as much as you can with Batman. I mean, Gotham was dark and grin gritty, but it wasn't like the over-the-top Tim Burton dark and gritty.

SPEAKER_08 19:05

It wasn't comic booky. I mean, that's the thing they always said about the Nolan Batman trilogy is if you take away the costumes, it's just the vigilante after criminals in like a mob style like Gotham City. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 19:20

Uh next one, Mike. This is for Leo. 2005, David Tennant's first appearance as a 10th doctor and BBC Doctor Who episode, The Parting of the Ways.

SPEAKER_08 19:33

Uh Mike, you watch Doctor Who? Do you remember David Tennant's first line he ever says? So where were we? Oh yes. Barcelona. I thought it was that uh so it is on permanent hiatus until they figure out what they want to do with it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 19:58

They're saying if there are any new episodes, it's probably not gonna be till closer to like 2030. Which at that point, you know, why bother?

SPEAKER_09 20:07

Yeah, people get back into it because they had a blong between tenant and the ninth and the eighth doctor.

SPEAKER_08 20:15

They just need a better showrunner for it and some better storylines and all that, and better actors than the last couple that they had. So anyway, next one. My favorite director.

SPEAKER_09 20:29

Yeah, everybody's favorite director here for the next two. 2009 Transformers Revenge of the Fallen, directed by Michael Bay. It's drawing Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox is released.

SPEAKER_08 20:44

Is which one's the the third one? I don't remember. It is Ark the Moon. That's the one that has the human-looking transformer where I'm like, why bother transforming in the cars if you look like you're human? Yeah. Um, I have not seen anything after the third one, so Mike, I have nothing to say about the next back. You have here.

SPEAKER_09 21:04

Well, I'm gonna tell you, I've not seen anything since the first one. So once they made Bumblebee not Bumblebee, I was kind of pissed. Uh 2014 Transformers Age of Extinction, directed by Michael Bay and starring Mark Wahlberg, premieres in Hong Kong, highest grossing film of 2014 with 1.104 billion dollars.

SPEAKER_08 21:29

Wow, yes, that's that's shocking. Yeah, well, you know what it is, it premieres in Hong Kong, which means that it had uh Chinese economy behind it because that's the only way it would have made one billion dollars. Yeah, um, we are uh we're we're making a plan to go to the movies in the first week of September to see the 40th anniversary of the animated Transformers movie being replayed in the 4K.

SPEAKER_05 21:57

Transformers for least.

SPEAKER_07 22:00

Yeah, they had to be stupid. I want to watch it in the sphere in Vegas.

SPEAKER_08 22:09

After a couple C BD gummies, sure.

SPEAKER_09 22:12

Uh last one you got there, Mike. Twenty fix 2015 Pixar's animated film Inside Out is released with voices by Amy Poehler, Phyllis Smith, Lewis Black, Bill Hayter, and Mindy Kaling.

SPEAKER_08 22:30

Yes. I love Lewis Black's anger, it was like the perfect casting.

SPEAKER_07 22:35

It's a shame they couldn't get or they weren't able to get Bill Hader and Mindy Kayling for the sequel because they offered them too little for not because they didn't have that big of a role.

SPEAKER_08 22:49

It's um something we talked about extensively uh just five episodes ago, I think maybe we did a Pixar episode for the 40th anniversary of the Pixar Studios. So all right, let's move on to a little bit of beer news. We only have one fact tonight. Is that all you got there, Kev? Yeah, is this a follow-up from the plane ride story from last week?

SPEAKER_07 23:13

Yes.

SPEAKER_08 23:14

All right, let me play your song.

SPEAKER_07 23:54

The Tartan Army has been drinking a lot of beer for the World Cup, so much so that some of Boston bars have ran out.

SPEAKER_08 24:05

Scottish soccer fans have been says a lot considering it's fucking Boston.

SPEAKER_07 24:12

Scots are checking the iron.

SPEAKER_08 24:18

They were just eating hands full of hops.

SPEAKER_07 24:22

Scottish soccer fans have been having a blast in Boston over the past week with the Tartan Army taking over restaurants and pubs, taking a victory lap of the city after their one and oh win over Haiti on Saturday and marching to the Red Sox game at Fenway Park on Sunday. I actually heard that they were singing 500 miles and they didn't stop. It was continuous. It's like the song that doesn't end. Uh, they've also been drinking a lot of beer so much so that some Boston bars have run out. Sam Adams says it's he's still alive. Sam Adams says in Boston Taproom ran out of Sam Adams' Boston Lager over the weekend because Scottish uh soccer fans drank them dry from Thursday to Sunday. It is said that the Tartan Army drank four times as much Boston Lager as it normally sells during a typical four-day holiday stretch like the 4th of July. The company had to schedule an emergency delivery on Saturday morning just to keep up. We've never seen anything like it said, Billy DeCain of the Sam Adams Boston Taproom, and they aren't the only ones running drugs. I love some of the hats I'm seeing in these uh pictures. They have hats that look like uh traffic cones.

SPEAKER_06 25:44

They are traffic cones.

SPEAKER_07 25:48

The White Bull Tavern, there was no beer. Scottish fan fan Dave Orr said the Scottish fans just drank the place dry, and all they had was Bud Light. Poor guys. Pretty much everything. We ran out of everything. Paul Morris of the White Bull Tavern added, tenants being number one. The fans have been unbelievable. They're great. Fun, drinking, partying, they're having a great time. Hennessy's Bar in downtown Boston told the Boston Globe that it tripled its St. Patrick's Day sales and sold out of beer altogether on Sunday night.

unknown 26:21

Wow.

SPEAKER_07 26:22

We've been here for over 30 years and we've never seen anything like it, said Noelle Summers, Hennessy's chief operations officer. Federal Wine and Spirits in the financial district told the Globe it sold out of Budweiser and Corona on Saturday, and the door and one of its refrigerators broke from being opened and closed so many times. The Dubliners also had been hopping. We had our biggest week ever last week. Orpin McConagal said of the Dubliner. I managed to plan ahead and get extra uh delivery last Saturday. And I was told yesterday that the distributor had run out too. He's getting his today, and the rest of the city is getting theirs tomorrow. Hopefully, the bars are stocked up. Uh, Scotland is next scheduled to play Morocco at Boston Stadium in Foxboro at 6 p.m. Eastern time uh tomorrow night, Eastern Time Friday.

SPEAKER_08 27:18

So next week's next week's headline's gonna be Boston bars run out of beer by noon.

SPEAKER_07 27:27

Bands going to Connecticut to get their fix.

SPEAKER_09 27:31

This reminds me of something I saw uh locally. Um, did you guys hear what the Ecuador team did? No, they cursed themselves, they put their jersey on. Oh, yeah, yeah, Iraqi statue.

SPEAKER_07 27:48

Somebody's gotta warn them. You gotta warn them.

SPEAKER_08 27:51

Uh just as a as a refresher, the uh the article last week was titled Scotland World Cup fans arriving in Boston say they ran out of beer on their flight. Uh, that's awesome. Uh, I'm not gonna play my song because of course my movie updates this week are both obituaries. Can't get away from obituaries when I do this. Uh, legendary film critic Gene Shalit, known for his crazy hair and bushy mustache, sharp wit, and uh crazy reviews, passed away at a hundred years old this week.

SPEAKER_07 28:26

He had the critic's corner.

SPEAKER_08 28:28

Yeah, it uh all counts are he died of being a hundred years old. Uh, opposite that, this is very sad. DeVay Chase, who was the voice of Lilo in the original animated Lilo and Stitch, and who played Samara Morgan, the ghostly antagonist in the ring franchise, passed away this week at the young age of 35 from complications due to meningitis. Oh wow, very sad, yeah. Uh, so let's try to bring us back up a little bit here by looking at a must-try crafter brew that Mike has for us this week.

SPEAKER_09 29:02

We're gonna talk about Angry Boy Brown Ale. It is a robust Japanese brown ale brewed by Baird Beer. It is known for balancing rich layered malt flavors with a pronounced hot bitterness that gives it more aggressive character than any traditional brown ale's. It is a brown ale, it's a brown ale often considered American style due to its hot uh profile, 7.0 ABV with uh about 45 IBU, which is really high for a brown ale. Deep brown to dark mahogany color, off-white to tan head, good clarity with uh moderate carbonation, uh caramel and toffee sweetness, toasted bread and biscuit malt, chocolate and light coffee notes, subtle earthy floral or citrus hop characters. The initial malt sweetness featuring caramelized sugar, toffee, and toasted grain. Mild palate develops chocolate, cocoa, uh roasted malt, and nutty flavors. Hop bitterness builds steadily, building with building balancing the malt richness, less sweet than any brown ales due to the firm hot presence, medium to medium full body, smooth texture, moderate carbon uh carbonation, slightly warming sensation from the alcohol. The beer combines the depth of richness of malt-flavored brown ale with a surprising assertive hot bitterness. The result is a beer that feels bold, complex, and well balanced rather than overly sweet. The name reflects its somewhat rebel rebellious personality compared with more traditional brown ale.

SPEAKER_08 31:04

Again, this is a beer whose name alone would get me to try it. Angry Boy. Angry Boy Brown Ale. We're gonna take a short break and we'll be back with our main segment. Tonight we are drafting our favorite sports films. We'll be right back with it.

SPEAKER_05 31:20

Welcome to the draft. Let's get it started.

SPEAKER_07 31:27

That's right. Just thank you.

SPEAKER_09 31:29

I mean, that's that's not that AI trash you got going on.

SPEAKER_08 31:33

Yes, that AI trash sounds about as close to me as the as the AI Leo I use in my cryptid videos. All right, so we are drafting uh sports films tonight. We're gonna be doing our favorite sports movies. We're doing snake draft rules, so whoever gets first pick will have last pick in the second round and so forth. One pick per round. There's gonna be seven rounds total because we have seven categories. One pick in each category. The wild card is open to any film that is sports related, and these are the categories. We will be picking a film in baseball, football, hockey, basketball, contact sport, which is boxing, wrestling, mma, whatever you know, involves, you know, fists to faces, touching each other, yes, and touching people, sports comedies, any sport allowed, and wild card anything goes. And then we will do some honorable mentions and shout-outs at the end. Uh, in the meantime, I need to bring up the wheel of the wheel of names so we can see who's picking when.

SPEAKER_07 32:35

The wheel of morality. Turn, turn, turn. Turn, turn, turn.

SPEAKER_08 32:38

So let's see what we should learn. Who's getting the first pick in the draft tonight?

SPEAKER_07 32:43

This spin is brought to you by Temptations Pure Kitten Treats Lickable.

SPEAKER_08 32:53

Matt, you get first pick. That means you get a row in the second to third round. All right, let's see who gets second to the case. That actually sucks. Being in the middle kind of sucks. All right, stand on the mic and cabinet. I know, I know. I don't know. I I have you know, I have much different likes than you do. So we'll see how it goes. Anyway, here's our draft order once again. Matt, me, Mike, and then Kevin. And then that means in the second round, it'll be Kevin, Mike, me, and Matt, and so on and so forth. So, Matt, with the first pick in the great movie sports movie draft, do you have a pick yet or do you need a moment?

SPEAKER_03 34:04

No, I I I know exactly what I know.

SPEAKER_08 34:05

Uh, can I pick up he knows it he knows exactly what he's taking? Hold on. What do you got, sir? Oh, hold on. I gotta take off the the loop. There we go. So I take us in.

SPEAKER_03 34:21

What do you got? Okay, I got sports comedies, and I got caddyshack.

SPEAKER_08 34:27

Wow, caddyshack. Not the movie I thought was gonna go first.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

I think that's the best sports comedy. That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_08 34:36

Well, I mean, I'm not arguing with you. I think argue that. I didn't expect a comedy or caddyshack to go first. It wouldn't have been my first pick, let's just put it that way. I mean, uh, but that means it is my pick now. I have the second pick in the draft. I am going with a baseball film for my first pick. And hold on. I fucked up. We are professional podcast, people. What do you got, Mike? What do you think I'm taking?

SPEAKER_09 35:08

You and baseball, I'm thinking Field of Dreams.

SPEAKER_08 35:14

That man knows me. Field of Dreams is my first pick in this draft and baseball films. I love Field of Dreams. Uh, I had another movie, but I'm hoping it it either falls into my lap at some point or something, but I had to take this one first. Field of Dreams is my first pick. I love it. Talk about it multiple times. Always gets me teary-eyed at the end when he asks his dad to play catch. Great James Earl Jones performance. I don't think I have to really defend myself. So, Mike, is the pick in? The pick is in.

SPEAKER_09 35:51

And I'm going with the football movies. Any guesses? Any guesses? Hold on.

SPEAKER_07 36:03

Necessary roughness.

SPEAKER_09 36:09

I am football movies. Football movies. Rudy. Rudy.

SPEAKER_08 36:16

Rudy. Rudy. Rudy. I thought you were gonna take uh the longest yard reboot with uh Adam Sandler. Rudy goes number one for Mike, so that takes up the football films for him, and then that brings it down to so Mike, you have anything you want to add for Rudy, other than the fact that it also stars a very young John Favreau and you know it's it's and Vince Vaughn.

SPEAKER_09 36:45

Vince Vaughn, yeah. Well I just like the it's just an inspiring story.

SPEAKER_08 36:52

It's also a good example of Hollywood revisionist history.

SPEAKER_09 36:56

Everything that's based on a true story is revisionist.

SPEAKER_07 37:00

So, Kim, you're up. You know what you want? Yeah, I think I can come up with one.

SPEAKER_08 37:07

Uh you think you could come up with one?

SPEAKER_09 37:10

He's not a big uh sports movie guy, so I got a handful.

SPEAKER_07 37:15

All right, what do you got? Watching this one uh towards the end of the school year with my film appreciation class. I'm gonna take the football movie Remember the Titans.

SPEAKER_08 37:26

Wow, nice, nice.

SPEAKER_07 37:27

Remember the Titans.

SPEAKER_08 37:30

That's a good one. That is a very good one. That kind of knocks out a couple of my football films already. All right, I'm only gonna play the chime for the first round because I'm already buzzed and I'm gonna definitely start fucking forgetting to do it anyway. But we are in the second round now, which means Kev, you get the pick first, you get your second pick in a row.

SPEAKER_07 37:49

All right. Uh, I'm gonna take this off the table because it's one of the only ones I know. But I'm going to go with uh my hockey movie being Miracle. Miracle. Do you believe in miracles?

SPEAKER_08 38:08

That's probably the best hockey movie. Alrighty. I don't know about that, but I do like Miracle a lot. I don't I don't know if it's the best one or not.

SPEAKER_07 38:19

Lee's gonna choose.

SPEAKER_08 38:20

I have a couple other ones in mind.

SPEAKER_07 38:21

What's that? Lee's gonna choose Slapshot or the Mighty Ducks.

SPEAKER_08 38:26

If it's still on the board when I get a chance to thanks for possibly sabotaging me. Uh some cab takes miracle. It's a very weird uh Kurt Russell performance. Yeah, because it's like the first time I think of Kurt Russell's career, he almost doesn't look like Kurt Russell.

SPEAKER_05 38:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 38:48

Uh so that means it's Mike's turn, so Mike can definitely fuck me here with something.

SPEAKER_09 38:52

I could, but uh, I think I'm gonna move to uh basketball. Hoosiers. I am going with Hoosiers because I love Hoosiers.

SPEAKER_08 39:08

Really? You don't want to do semi-pro with uh with uh Will Farrell?

SPEAKER_09 39:12

No, I would do I would do Eddie with uh we'll be gold work before I do semi-pro. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 39:19

Eddie. It's a very relevant movie now since the Knicks just won the NBA championship.

SPEAKER_05 39:23

Yeah, or not.

SPEAKER_08 39:25

The Nick Housen takes so Mike takes Hoosiers with his second pick. That means it's my turn now, and I have a full field to go here. I got basketball, football, hockey, combat sports, comedy, and wild card. Oh god. Um just because I don't want anybody else to take it from me in comedy, I'm going with major league.

unknown 39:56

Damn it.

SPEAKER_03 39:59

That could go either baseball or comedy, though, right?

SPEAKER_08 40:01

It could be baseball or comedy, and I already picked the baseball one, so I can't do it there. Yeah, so I'm out for comedy and I'm out for for baseball now at that point. Uh, so Matt, you pick Caddy Shack for comedy, so you are open for any other category now.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

All right, I'm gonna do baseball, and I'm gonna do sandlot.

SPEAKER_08 40:23

Ooh. Good choice. That's a really good choice. Yes. I actually was was that was one of my like wild card uh one of my wild card picks because I wasn't sure where that would land. But I like that one. That's a good one. Sandlot. Yeah, I actually thought you might have screwed Kevin out of his favorite baseball movie.

SPEAKER_03 40:44

They screened that at the uh yeah theater near me a cute few years ago. It was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_08 40:50

Well, it was like the 30th anniversary or something, yeah. Yeah, 2023, something like that. Yeah. Uh Matt, you get another pick though now because it's the third round, so you get the next pick as well.

SPEAKER_03 41:01

Oh, I get another one? All right, so um I'm gonna do all right. I'm gonna do um combat sports. Ooh, okay, and I'm gonna do karate kid.

SPEAKER_06 41:23

Damn.

SPEAKER_08 41:24

Karate kid. I think we got our first fuck you in the night. Karate kid off the board, combat sports. That's a great one, man. Yes, great thing. I love singing the Joe Esposito song. Uh you're the best around. I love singing it because it annoys my wife didn't know him.

SPEAKER_05 41:45

You're the best around.

SPEAKER_08 41:47

Kevin and I have often you Kevin and I have often used get it, get him a body bag uh regularly in conversation, sweep the lake Johnny regularly. I love karate kid, man. So what where are you at on uh the next karate kid with Hillary Swank?

SPEAKER_03 42:05

Uh I don't like that one. An honor honorable mention.

SPEAKER_07 42:08

Still better than the uh karate kid.

SPEAKER_03 42:11

Well, the what yeah, the Will Smith one's the worst one.

SPEAKER_08 42:14

That's have you seen Karate Kid Legacies yet? Yeah, so that was it was pretty good. It was pretty good. I was I was joking. I haven't yeah, I was making a joke at it, but I didn't really think anybody saw it yet.

SPEAKER_03 42:25

Yeah, I saw I saw it came out last year, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 42:27

Yeah, all right. So karate kid goes in combat sports. So right now, Matt has Sandlot in baseball, karate kid in combat, Caddyshack in comedy, and I'm up. I have Field of Dreams for baseball, and I have Major League for comedy. Where should I go next? Let's see. I think because Kevin already jinxed me on it. I'm gonna go hockey and I'm gonna take slapshot. One of the greatest comedy films of all time, as well as a great hockey film, Paul Newman. The uh the triplet guys with the weird glasses who beat the shit out of everybody on the ice. Weird movie for Paul Newman to be in. Yeah. But it's a really great, it's a very, very 70s film. 70s comedy. Oh slapshot. I don't want somebody else to take it or screw me or whatever, so I take slap shot next. That means it's Mike's turn again.

SPEAKER_09 43:27

And Mike is sticking with hockey and going with the Mighty Ducks. Not a shocker. I don't watch a lot of hockey movies, so I only see like two.

SPEAKER_08 43:38

But you are a Disney guy, so I figured Mighty Ducks would be on your list. Mighty Ducks one and two, and Miracle. All three are Disney movies. Yeah. How about Mighty Ducks three? Isn't that the one where they play like Russia? I don't think I've seen that part. Or is I might think Miracle. Might be confusing Mighty Ducks 3 with Miracle.

SPEAKER_03 43:58

Is Kurt Russell in?

SPEAKER_08 44:02

Uh Kev, you're up now.

SPEAKER_07 44:05

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 44:06

You have uh Remember the Titans in Football and Miracle in Hockey.

SPEAKER_07 44:12

I think I'll go basketball. Because I don't have much knowledge, but I have seen this one. Coach Carter. Okay.

unknown 44:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 44:22

I was expecting to give you a fuck you, but I don't have to now. Not one that I was planning on.

SPEAKER_07 44:28

Do you think I was playing planning on taking Space Jam?

SPEAKER_08 44:32

That one or the remake? No, that was a zero chance of that being on my list. Let's talk about the one with LeBron.

unknown 44:42

Oh, the remake.

SPEAKER_08 44:43

Only because Rick and Morty make a cameo appearance in that one. All right. So, Kev, you now have another pick because it is the next round.

SPEAKER_07 44:52

I'm gonna get my top four out of the way. I am going to pick the natural. Oh, natural.

SPEAKER_08 44:58

There we go. That is the one that I figured you would be picking for baseball. Because that is your favorite baseball movie. It is indeed. All right, the natural. So right now, Kevin has the natural and baseball. Coach Carter for basketball. Remember the Titans for football and miracle for hockey. You still have a combat sport, a comedy, and a wild card. And that brings it back to Mike. And Mike Mike, you currently have baseball, combat, comedy, and wild card.

SPEAKER_09 45:31

And I am gonna go with combat and go with Rocky.

SPEAKER_08 45:37

That is a big time get on the draft board. This round this round, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 45:46

That was a big time. It fell to me, but it fell.

SPEAKER_08 45:50

I that's one I thought would have gone like pretty early. Yeah. I haven't taken my combat yet, so that kind of left it out for me. Shit. Now I gotta think of something else for combat.

SPEAKER_03 46:00

Well, you're gonna have Rocky 2, 3, 4, 5.

SPEAKER_08 46:03

Come on, he's going with Blood Sport. We know it. I'm going with Creed. I'm going with Lionheart with Jean-Claude Van Damme.

SPEAKER_09 46:12

No, no, no. Uh Cloud, you gotta also do the one. What was it? Uh uh the soldier one with uh Dolph with him.

SPEAKER_08 46:19

Universal Soldier, that fucking my wife just handed me something she was drinking that she doesn't like. It's a black cherry fizz. Uh I don't know what's in it. I it's black cherry fizz, but I'm not sure like what the fizz part is. Like is it vodka or something? I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 46:43

It's an acid.

SPEAKER_08 46:46

It is awful. I don't know what it is. It it tastes like like fucking what do you call it? Nyquil.

SPEAKER_09 46:57

So then I guess uh it just sobers you the fuck up, right?

SPEAKER_08 47:01

Yeah, I know. I'm like I'm I'm only on my I'm still trying to wake, wake, make through my fucking drunk. Moving on. I'm I'm up. So I have basketball, football, combat, and wild card. I think I'm gonna do basketball because I was eyeing this one anyway, and I might as well get it out of the way. So for basketball, I'm going with white men can't jump.

SPEAKER_07 47:31

Nice pick. Nice pick. Good performance by Rosie Perez. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:35

I'm not a big basketball movie person to begin with. There's not a lot to begin with.

SPEAKER_03 47:41

What the most memorable line is that was I'm gonna put my mouth where the money is, right? That's the line I remember for that movie the most.

SPEAKER_08 47:48

I also enjoy the fact that Rosie Perez's sub lot is that she's trying to get on Jeopardy.

SPEAKER_03 47:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:57

Uh that brings it back to Matt.

SPEAKER_03 48:00

All right. Um, I'm gonna do my wild card. Ooh. I'm gonna do Happy Gilmore. Mike is very disappointed.

SPEAKER_09 48:11

Now, what could that go like golf or that could be that's like a hybrid golf or hockey?

SPEAKER_08 48:16

Yeah, it's golf. I would say I would say 80% golf, 20% hockey.

SPEAKER_03 48:22

Yeah, little little little uh hockey sprinkled in. You'll be surprised. I have seen Happy Gilmore. That's why you hate Adam Sandler. Well the the Bob Barker is is is money in that. It's combat sport too, because you got the fight with Bob Barker. You got Carl Methers in it. That's the wrong bitch.

SPEAKER_08 48:46

It's Rocky adjacent. Yeah. Crocodile took my hand. The happy Gilmore wild card. That leaves you with basketball, football, and hockey, and you have the next pick as well.

SPEAKER_03 48:59

All right. Um, um, so for my football movie, I'm gonna do Lucas. Remember seeing Lucas?

SPEAKER_07 49:07

Oh, Lucas, Lucas, yeah, no, it was a small, it was a slow clap. That was slow clap.

SPEAKER_03 49:14

It's a it's it's very similar to Rudy, but it's more like a like a child.

SPEAKER_07 49:19

Uh Winona Ryder.

SPEAKER_03 49:20

Yeah, Winona Ryder's in it.

SPEAKER_07 49:22

And Carrie, what's her name? The one from Goonies, Carrie. Oh, yeah, the Green Carrie Green.

SPEAKER_03 49:28

Yeah. So that's my football.

SPEAKER_08 49:32

Yeah, that's a that's a deep cut. Deep cut, real deep cut, yeah. Lucas, Jesus. Yeah. Uh you don't want to do what's that movie with Robin Williams and Kurt Russell as football players?

SPEAKER_03 49:45

Robin Williams and Kurt Russell.

SPEAKER_08 49:46

There's a movie with Robin Williams and Kurt Russell.

SPEAKER_03 49:49

Really?

SPEAKER_08 49:50

Going, but they were high school football players, and at like a high school reunion they play in a like football game together or something.

SPEAKER_07 49:56

The world according to Garp?

SPEAKER_08 49:58

It's not the world according to Garp. I can't I'll have to look it up because I don't remember the name of it, but it's like really it's a bad movie. Uh that brings me brings it back to me. I have football, combat sport, and wild card left. I have to look at my draft sheet here to see like what things I had picked out. Um, let's see. I think for uh football. I'm going to go with any given Sunday.

SPEAKER_03 50:36

That was my bad.

SPEAKER_08 50:37

Oliver Oliver Stone joint.

SPEAKER_03 50:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 50:42

Starring uh Dennis Quaid, Jamie Foxx, and a million other people.

SPEAKER_09 50:48

I thought you were gonna pick the last Boy Scout.

SPEAKER_08 50:51

I'm not a big fan of that. There's a lot of people who support that movie. I'm not a big fan of that at all.

SPEAKER_09 50:56

Yeah, I didn't think you would be.

SPEAKER_08 50:58

I thought you were backup for baseball was the fan with Robert De Niro and Wesley Slix.

SPEAKER_03 51:04

Yeah, that's actually pretty good. I like the fan. That movie sucks. Are you talking about it?

SPEAKER_08 51:09

Didn't um what did it was supposed to be like taxi driver with baseball?

SPEAKER_03 51:13

Yeah, I mean it's not I mean it's not great, but like it's who's the guy who directed that? It's um it's a pretty good director, right?

SPEAKER_08 51:20

Wasn't it like John McTiernan in or something?

SPEAKER_03 51:23

I thought it was the guy who did uh Carrie. Um, I don't know. Uh I can't I'm blanking out his name, but I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_08 51:32

Yeah, look it up while Mike does his next pick. So I have what?

SPEAKER_09 51:37

Uh baseball. You have baseball, wild card, and comedy. So I am gonna go with comedy, and I'm surprised this one's still on the board. I'm going with cool runnings, man.

SPEAKER_08 51:52

So far, I haven't gotten screwed yet. I like this.

SPEAKER_09 51:56

Uh have you done you've done your baseball, so I don't have to worry about it.

SPEAKER_08 51:59

I did my baseball, I did my uh comedy. I kind of got all the ones I wanted, so I'm I'm I'm doing pretty good here right now. So we go with Cool Runnings, man. And that was for comedy, you said, right?

SPEAKER_03 52:12

That was comedy. That's my comedy.

SPEAKER_08 52:14

Oh, uh Brian De Palma Decarry.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

Oh, De Palma, okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's a pretty he's a good director, but yeah, but he does have a lot of shit movies in his in his repertoire, though.

SPEAKER_08 52:25

For every untouchables, there's you know, yeah. Uh so Mike takes cool runnings, a great John Candy performance. Yes. We talked about it in our John Candy episode that we did earlier this year and back in October. Uh, that brings it to Kevin. You have two picks in a row, Kev. Combat sport, comedy, and wild card.

SPEAKER_07 52:49

I will do my combat sport movie. And uh this one didn't get much attention, but it you know looked pretty good. I actually to admit that I've only seen bits and pieces. It's called Fighting with My Family.

SPEAKER_08 53:05

Oh, it's a good movie.

SPEAKER_07 53:07

Yeah, starring um Lor uh Lena Hetty and uh Florence Pugh and Nick Frost, Vince Fawn, Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

SPEAKER_08 53:21

Oh Kevin or it's a movie that Mike and I are kind of familiar with because we're familiar with the actual wrestler whose life it's based on. Paige. Uh Paige is the wrestler, WWE wrestler that Florence Pugh plays. Um, and it's about how her family was a family of wrestlers, professional wrestlers in Britain, and she was the only one who got the who made it to WWE. It's kind of like her her like journey, and it's pretty good. And I love Florence Pugh, so it's a really good performance from her. That's a good one. Fighting with my family for combat. And then uh that leaves you with comedy and wild card, Kev.

SPEAKER_07 53:54

I'll do comedy next. Uh, I am going to go with um dodgebill. I mean dodgeball. You motherfucker, there's the first you of the night.

SPEAKER_08 54:06

An under an underdog story? It's an underdog story, and I was I was saving it. Wait, you ready for make ready for this, Kev? I was saving it for contact sport. Man, I love dodgeball. Fuck you. All right, go ahead. Nobody makes me bleed my own blood. You know, there's some people in the world that only eat vomit. This is my conciliary, Michelle. He's so funny. My name is White Goodman. Oh god, I love Dodgeball so much. It's on um I think it's on Hulu right now, and I've been wanting to watch it again, and I haven't gotten around to it. I might have to watch it tomorrow now because I'm angry that you got it before me. Yeah. I receive. Uh so Kev, that was your two in a row. That brings me back to Mike, who has two picks left. Uh, I believe it's wild card and baseball. You have baseball and wild card.

SPEAKER_09 55:22

So I think I'm gonna go with my wild card here and go with the classic the bad news bears.

SPEAKER_08 55:32

Uh oh, and not as baseball. Yeah, there's a lot of baseball movies out there that showed up. Baseball's the easiest one to kind of come up with movies for, I think. Yeah, I left it for last. Yeah. So Mike takes the bad news bears in Wild Garden. Now you're talking about the reboot with Billy Bob Thornton.

SPEAKER_03 55:51

No, I'm talking about the original Walt Walter Mathell, right?

SPEAKER_08 55:55

Walter Mathell, yeah. Kev uh and Matt and I had a whole like text thread going about this the other day. Bad news bears three. He was asking me, is it okay to take sequels? And I said, Why? Do you really want to take bad news bears go to Japan? And he goes, Is that a movie? And I go, Yeah, and he's like, When did that come out in like 1978, right after Bad News Bears 2? Like um Major League Three back to the Minors. He made a joke about that in the text every day, too. I said, Well, do you really want to take Major League Three Back to the Minors? Which I think is better than Major League Two. All right, I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it either, but it's not great. All right, it's my turn now. Uh Mike has a baseball movie left, so I'm gonna fuck him over in my wild card by taking Bulldorum.

SPEAKER_09 56:48

I still got one in my pocket.

SPEAKER_08 56:51

Well, I have my three favorite baseball movies in my draft Field of Dreams, Major League, and Bull Durham. So I'm good. Well, I'm happy. Uh, Matt, you have the last two picks now for your all right your run here. So you get to fill in your last two. You got hockey and basketball.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

All right. So for hockey, I'm gonna do it's can you do documentaries? Sure. Yeah, so there's there's a documentary that's pretty good called Red Army. Ooh. It's about the Soviet um Soviet hockey team. Um, you know, the one that played out. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so it's it's a documentary about them, though. And then it's interesting, it kind of has a Philly time because um the Flyers lost the 97 Stanley Cup to the Red Wings, and the Red Wings had two of the really good Russian players, uh, which I didn't know because I'm I'm not like a giant hockey fan, but I like I like Olympic hockey, but I'm I'm not like a big you know, I don't watch the NHL that much, but like I that's a really interesting documentary.

SPEAKER_08 57:52

Oh, I have to pick it up. Sounds good. Uh so you have the last pick as well, which is basketball at your last basketball.

SPEAKER_03 58:03

I'm gonna do one. I think I think this is a really good basketball movie, and this is also it's based on Othello. It's a movie called O. Oh. Oh, yes, it's called O.

SPEAKER_08 58:17

Oh with uh Julia Styles.

SPEAKER_03 58:20

Yeah, and it's it's basically like Othello, but it's like a basketball version of it.

SPEAKER_08 58:24

It's impossible to look up an IMDB, yes, because you type an O in a million oh yeah. That's funny. Oh, okay. So that is Matt's final pick. That brings it back to me with my final pick, combat films. Uh, I had one that I wanted to pick because it's one of my favorite movies. I actually had two. They're really movies I really love that I didn't get a chance to pick, but I think because Matt took a documentary for his, I'm gonna take a documentary for mine for combat sports. And this is just me kissing ass uh on one of our former uh guests on the show. I'm picking the documentary that Bobby DeMars produced, The Business of Amateurs. Uh, The Business of Amateurs is a documentary about collegiate football and the way they were kind of uh mistreated by the NCAA, uh, you know, in terms of things like concussions and health protocols and stuff. And this guy, Bobby, that we had in our show, who is the CEO of a company called Blind Barrels Distillery, um, was the producer of this documentary and the uh the host of it. And it's a really good documentary where he was a collegiate football player and he like kind of like exposed some of the stuff that was going on, some of the corruption, and they actually ended up changing some of the rules in the NCAA because of it. It's a really good documentary. He's a businessman mature, so that's my that's my final, that's my combat one. Uh so Mike, you have your last pick, which is baseball.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:00

Can you even take a guess of what I'm thinking looking thinking about there, Lee?

SPEAKER_07 1:00:05

Uh Little Big League, rookie of the year, rookie of the year, angels in the outfield.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:12

Oh, I forgot about that. I am gonna go with what I consider the most underrated baseball movie ever. Okay. Eight men out. All right, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:22

Yeah, really good one.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:24

It's about the the White Sox, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:00:26

The Black Sox, yeah. 1919, 1919 Chicago White Sox Black O'Rooker, you've got Charlie Sheen, you've got uh TV Sweeney, you've got John Kuzak.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

It's it's a stack is a stack.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:41

It's a really good movie. It's I keep saying it's one I gotta I have to um kind of return to. I haven't seen it really.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

I haven't seen a long time. I remember being probably seen in 25 years.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:54

Directed by John Sales was a pretty good director.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:57

Um, just didn't get a get the uh the push I thought it should have, and it didn't do yeah, it didn't do well in the box office.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:05

Um it's a slow burn though, too. Yeah, well, I mean it's again, it's a based on true story kind of movie, and yeah. So yeah, you got John Cusack, Clifton James, uh Bill Irwin, John Mahoney, Mike Rooker, Charlie Sheen, David Strathern, D.B. Sweeney, John Sales makes an appearance in it. It's it's yeah, it's a really good movie. I have to I have to revisit it at some point. Uh, and that brings it to Kevin with the final pick of the evening. Your wild card, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:36

So I had questions. Yes. Can the athlete be riding or driving something? Is that considered the sport?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:48

There's no limit to this. It's the wild card.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:50

Yeah, I understand, but I want to still be. None of us pick a racing movie, so if you're picking a racing movie, it's fine.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:55

Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, it's considered a sport. If you're gonna pick this thunder, and no one do I want to go serious or do I want to go funny?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:06

Saladega Nights, is that what you're no, gentlemen, it goes deeper than that.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:14

Blades of glory than that, balls deeper than that.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:17

Fury took dodge ball. Oh, balls of fury. Please take it. Please take balls of fury, balls of fury, the ping pong epic. I never saw balls of fury. Oh, it's hilarious. It's great, it's worth it's worth watching to hear Chris Walkins say the ancient Chinese heart of ping pong, or as they call it in Chinese, ping pong.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:47

Can I make an observation real quick, though? Yes, as much as you and Kevin love this movie, neither one of you put League of Their Own on your list.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:59

That's true. Well, I think so. League of Their Own. It's tough because I had a list of baseball films and League of Their Own was on there, and I also had a list of comedy films and League of Their Own was on there. So I was kind of like kind of saving that in case I got screwed out of one of the other films that I love. Um, now this is a wild card, so it could have been anything. You could have picked League of Their Own. But the fact that he wanted to pick Balls of Fury really tickles my my taint.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:29

Tickles my taint. Um no, I I do like uh a League of Their Own, but I think of all the categories, baseball is by far my favorite, you know, and to narrow it down, and when the natural was still available, I had I had to know. No, I mean honestly, it would have my my my top five would have been natural, field of dreams, um uh league of their own, 42, and Sandlot, you know, those would have been my top five.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:58

42 is another great one, yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:59

42 is a great one too.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:01

Baseball, I think baseball is the deepest, it is the deepest category. There's so many really good baseball movies. For some whatever reason, it really makes for really good cinema.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:11

And if you're scraping the bottom of the barrel, you have Cobb, you have the babe.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:18

We did our baseball movie way back. Uh HBO movie about about chasing the oh uh when it was a game, I guess.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:26

62, the one about Mickey Mantle, yeah. Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris. That's a good one. The one you just mentioned, Kev, is one of the best documentaries ever made. When it was a game, such a great documentary. That's an early HBO documentary.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:41

I mean, there's a lot of movies we didn't get to that are like great, like honorable mentions, like you said, um uh League of their own. Uh for like baseball movies. I like Little Big League, is a movie where the little kid becomes the uh the coach of the Minnesota Twins. It's one of those like 90s, like kids can kids can do anything films, which is like it's cheesy, but I really enjoy it.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:03

And nobody picked the Rick Moranis uh Little Giants Giants for football.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:10

My my my favor one of my favorite football films. If I didn't get any given Sunday, I would have taken necessary roughness anything because Kathy Ireland's in it. The replacements replacements is another one. Invincible is pretty good too. Invincible's pretty good varsity blues, uh Program Program, Friday Night Live Program, uh North Dallas 40. So there's a lot of like really good football ones too. Hockey's not one that's as deep, so like we got pretty much all the big ones. We got Mighty Ducks, we got Slapshot Miracle. There's Mystery Atlaska with Russell Crowe. Yeah, um, and then all like the Mighty Duck sequels. Yeah, yeah, that's not much there. For basketball, we got Hoosiers, we got White Man Can't Jump, uh, we got um Ohter, but then like some other ones out there are uh Uh Uncut Gems with Adam Sandler. It's the it's a serious Adam Sandler film, but it's a really good movie. Uncut Gems. Uh he did another one, Adam Sandler called Hustle, where he's like a scout for the Sixers, which is a really good movie. Yeah, so there's there's some decent ones out there. And then for contact sports, uh Blood Sport. Again, Mike was joking about it, but I like Blood Sports. No one picked Raging Bull. Nobody picked Raging Bull. I was also debating on picking Digstown because I really love that movie with James Woods and Lewis Gaza Jr. Cinderella. I felt like there were better movies out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:40

Cinderella Man.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:41

Rocky 2, 3, and 4. Nobody took any of the Rocky sequels. Read one, two, and three.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:46

Yeah, there's like so many. Is uh Southpaw with uh Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah, a really good movie. Um, for sports comedies, we got major league, we got Happy Gilmore. I was also thinking uh Tin Cup, the golf movie with uh with uh uh Kevin Costner Bob Thornton. Oh, wait, no, it's uh Kevin Costner and um right the guy from Miami Vice. I can't think of his name. Renee Russo and Renee Russo's in it, uh Chase Marin's in it. Yeah, um, and then for the wild cards, uh I was thinking there's uh a football movie called Draft Day with Kevin Costner. Yeah, uh he plays the GM of the Cleveland Browns. It's a it's a movie that's completely implausible as far as the NFL draft goes, but I really enjoy the film.

SPEAKER_07 1:07:37

That's like Moneyball.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:39

Moneyball. I love Moneyball. That's a good one that would fall under the baseball category. You know, it could be baseball or wild card. Like Moneyball's a fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:45

Jerry Maguire might have been good football, too.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:47

Jerry Maguire. Yeah, see, there's like so many movies. Like I I was trying to narrow down my list, and there's something that you kind of missed.

SPEAKER_09 1:07:53

And I wanted to clear uh like uh uh Chariots of Fire. Chariots of Fire, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:01

Over there, Eddie D. You know what's weird about that? My the the um my grandfather was a really really good runner back in the 20s, and he raced against the guy from Chariots of Fire. Oh wow, he was in a race against him. Like, I mean, it was like a whole bunch of people, but like he that's kind of cool. Like he told me in a competition against him.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:20

Did he win?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:21

They didn't they play that music in the background? Yeah, his shoelaces together, but like not not as good as the chariots expire guy.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:31

Whether we were gonna include like like it had to be the sport, like the physicalness of the man, or whether like the racing ones like Sea Biscuit or Ford versus Ferrari or um that's another Days of Thunder.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:46

That's another like we did no racing movies. We did no days of thunder, no Taladega Nights, no, no uh the Ford versus Ferrari is a great movie. Um Ricky Bobby, no Ricky Bobby, no Ricky Bobby. If you're not first, you're last. Uh I'm happy Nogical got picked, even though I didn't pick it. We're also missing uh one other great uh sports moment in history here. Uh the scene where the protagonist in airplane teaches the African tribe how to play basketball.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:20

I think of Kevin Bacon, the basketball, the air up there.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:25

The air up there, air bud. Has anybody ever seen all the right moves?

SPEAKER_08 1:09:30

Yes, yeah, that's the one with Charlie Sheen, isn't it? No, no, it's Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, I'm sorry, Tom Cruise.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:36

Yeah, I actually I I saw I saw it a long, long time ago. I don't remember much about it, but I remember it being a football movie. But it's a football movie, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:43

Yeah, it's that's an early 80s one. Yeah, that's like a Tom Cruise, like right after uh outsiders film. Hold on. I'm looking up the the football movie at Robin Williams that I was thinking of the best of times. It's called the best of times. It stars Kurt Russell and Robin Williams really as uh two guys who go back to like high school for like your reunion and play like in this big football game or whatever. Yeah, really weird movie. So, anyway, here is the final draft uh totals here. Mac took the sandlot for baseball, oh for basketball, Lucas for football, red army, a documentary for hockey, karate kid for combat sport, fuck you, Caddyshack for comedy, and happy Gilmore for Wildcard. I took Field of Dreams for baseball. I have a very baseball heavy draft. Field of Dreams, White Men Can't Jump any Given Sunday, slapshot, the business of amateurs, major league and bulldorum. Uh Mike has eight men out, Hoosiers, Rudy, the Mighty Ducks, Rocky, cool runnings, and the bad news bears. And Kevin has the natural coach Carter, remember the Titans, Miracle, Fighting with My Family, Dodgeball, and at my request, balls of fury for wildcards. I do have some uh shout-outs here that I like to throw out here. We have this guy, Kevin, who sent me a message on Facebook that said Dodgeville, the true underdog story, to which I responded, Did you mean dodgeball? To which Kevin responded, Yes, Dodgeville sucks ass. Don't even watch it. That would be that Kevin, right there. Uh harsh language podcast on X said, This is an impossible task. Most respondents would lean into their favorite sports. You can't even get people to agree on the greatest sport of all time. So the greatest sports movie is even more difficult to pin down, but good luck. Anyway, my vote's Rocky. And uh, for me, it's the three baseball ones that I took Major League, Bulldorum, and and uh Field of Dreams. Like, I'm good with just those three baseball movies, I don't need anything else. Uh Mike Bruno, uh, one of our usual uh respondents when I ask questions online, said the greatest sports movie has to be the 1977 Academy Award winner Rocky. But he also said, I'd really like to hear your thoughts on basketball and blades of glory.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:24

Basketball was the uh South Park guys, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:12:26

Yes, it's Trey Parker and Matt Stone. It's a pretty funny movie, especially when you watch it at three o'clock in the morning and you're fucking hammered. It's actually pretty a pretty funny movie. Uh I really like Blades of Glory too. It's Will Farrell and John Heater as rival ice skaters.

SPEAKER_07 1:12:48

Um it's a spoof of uh the cutting edge.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:51

It's kind of a spoof of the cutting edge where they they get banned from competitive figure skating and they find a loophole. And the loophole is they joined couples skating. And the loophole is that there's nothing that says it can't be a man and a man as the couple, and so they become a couple's skating. And it's it's it's dumb, but it's pretty funny. Uh what else we got here? We have franchise addicts on X said Friday Night Lights is the greatest football movie of all our greatest sports movie of all time. Really good movie, yeah. Uh good Billy Bob Thornton performance. Yeah. Uh, so that was our shout-outs for this evening. I'm going to post our picks online and see uh who votes on who has the best picks, and we'll find out the winners next week. Anyway, uh, Mike, you have any beer trivia for this evening?

SPEAKER_09 1:13:46

Uh, this is more like uh history for you. Uh about Chinese beer. Chinese beer is relatively a short but fascinating.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:52

I believe you mean Japanese beer if I'm reading that correctly. It is Japanese, Jesus Christ. How much I'm the fucking drunk one, and I can see that.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:02

I've had half a bottle of mead here, boys.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:06

I drank a lot of bourbon. I like scotch. Scotch is good.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:15

Japanese beer is relatively a short but fascinating history compared to European brewing traditions. The first commercially successful breweries appeared during the Meijing uh restoration from 1868 to 1912 when Japan opened the Western open to Western influences. One of the earliest and most influ influential breweries was the Sapporo breweries established in 1876 in Herehito.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:43

With the thing I love more than than Mike trying to read French words, that's Mike trying to read three Japanese words. That would be Hokkaido.

SPEAKER_09 1:14:54

Whatever. Help with that's why we have no fans in Japan. Not with German brewing techniques in the late 1800s. Other major breweries emerged, including Kieran, brewery cup brewery company, and asashi. Yes. In the 20th century, beer consumption was growing rapidly, and a handful of large breweries dominated the market. After World War II, Japan Japan's economy expanded and beer became one of the country's most popular alcoholic beverages. A major innovation came in 1987 with the I said uh breweries introduced super dry. It's light-bodied, highly okay, dry flavor. Thank you. I can't even see I'm I can't even see this shit right now. Uh revolutionizes the Japanese beer industry and influenced breweries worldwide. The nineteen in 1994, Japan relaxed regulations and had made it difficult, regulations that had made it difficult for small breweries to operate. This sparks the growth of craft beer movement, leading to hundreds of regional breweries producing anything from traditional loggers to IPA stats and experimental L's. Today, Japan is known for both its global recognized loggers and its vibrant craft beer scene. Major brewers such as Sapiro Breweries, Crane, Brewery Company, and Aseshi wrong breweries and Sun Troy continue to dominate the market while smaller brew craft producers showcase Japan's creativity and local ingredients.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:22

So I I took that drink my wife gave me that she didn't like the cherry fizz, and I added it to the little bit of bourbon I had left. And I'm confused because I'm not sure if it made the fizz taste better or the bourbon taste worse. It's kind of thrown me off.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:46

Acting is the most minor of gifts. After all, Shirley Temple could do it when she was only four. Catherine Hepburn.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:04

Acting is a minor. How are our drinks this evening, gentlemen? Well, I drank half a fucking bottle, dude.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:15

And I have to work tomorrow. I drank this.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:19

You're the only one that's not in education, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:18:22

I'm off tomorrow, baby. I don't think going to a school. I'm going to temple.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:29

I am off tomorrow. Katie's off tomorrow, too. It's awesome. Neither one of us is there. Yeah, Megan's off tomorrow. I'm off tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:34

Adrian's off tomorrow. I am not.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:38

Matt's off tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:40

So late August or actually early September this year.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:43

Matt, how is your bucket fusion?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:45

These were good. There's actually like I like the uh the cut water. Uh cutwater has a whole bunch of different like ready-made cocktails, and the the vodka transfusion is very good. It's a very good summer drink. So I like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:58

And uh Kev, I'm sure you had nothing to say uh bad about Sam Adams, right?

SPEAKER_07 1:19:03

Well, I have some, which is better than the Scots can say right now. That's right.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:11

I this evening have drank some bird gang bourbon, which is really good. I tried some uh crooks creek cherry fizz, which is very terrible. And then when I combine them together, I got something very confusing.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:27

Crooks creek won't be a sponsor of the show, right?

SPEAKER_08 1:19:30

We have plenty of things we talk about that are not sponsors of the show. Uh, so thank you for joining us tonight for episode 243, the great sports movie draft. We hope you enjoyed listening to the podcast as much as we enjoyed recording it for you. Don't forget, you can drop us an email at films of fermentation at gmail.com or visit linktree.com slash films of fermentation. Find all of our social media podcast links. I'm not even sure if I'm talking straight or slurring right now, so hopefully you understand everything I'm saying. Uh, we are on the PodNation Media Network on Roku. We're also on YouTube and Rumble, or you can uh go to patreon.com slash films of fermentation to support us or text at the 904-867-4466. Uh, in the meantime, make sure you stop by the crossroads between pickled and fermented next time around for episode 244. We're gonna do something I'm very excited about. We're gonna look at the film career of the great Tim Curry next time around. In the meantime, I'm Leo, I'm Kevin, I'm Mike, I'm Matt, and that's our friend Matt. Thank you, Matt, again for joining us tonight. I appreciate you coming on and helping us out with this. Yeah, in the meantime, this has been the films and fermentation podcast. Cheers, everybody. Cheers.